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Realistic TDL

Created by: hockeyconnor97
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 13, 2022
Published: Mar. 13, 2022
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Realistically Holland doesn't spend a lot at the TDL, and somewhat solves one major need, 3LD. Maybe he trades for a depth player as well
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  1. 2022 5th round pick (EDM)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,155,664$669,339$907,500$1,344,336
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,108,696$2,108,696
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$834,167$834,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 13, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.
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Not realistic at all... they ain't trading kulak for a 5th, yes he won't be expensive but they'll get a better offer than a 5th from other teams
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 5:54 p.m.
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Quoting: SMH
Not realistic at all... they ain't trading kulak for a 5th, yes he won't be expensive but they'll get a better offer than a 5th from other teams


Probably the Traditional 4th we get
I think its Morrow,Reilly and Jerebek we've traded for 4ths at the TDL since 2017
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
Probably the Traditional 4th we get
I think its Morrow,Reilly and Jerebek we've traded for 4ths at the TDL since 2017


The way he's been playing some team might even give a 3rd for him
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
Probably the Traditional 4th we get
I think its Morrow,Reilly and Jerebek we've traded for 4ths at the TDL since 2017


The difference with Kulak and the players you named is Kulak is a bottom pairing dman NHLer while the other were 7th dmans
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: GMs
The difference with Kulak and the players you named is Kulak is a bottom pairing dman NHLer while the other were 7th dmans


Reilly >Kulak so im confused about this statement
He's a top 4 D on a playoff team 40 seconds or 1 shift from being 2nd in team minutes
Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: GMs
The difference with Kulak and the players you named is Kulak is a bottom pairing dman NHLer while the other were 7th dmans


And he has 23 playoffs games of experience in the last 2 years (More than Nurse lol). I think a GM would value that.
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:15 p.m.
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I think the price for Kulak is a 3rd
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
And he has 23 playoffs games of experience in the last 2 years (More than Nurse lol). I think a GM would value that.


I think he takes not in the role dropping from top 4 minutes year 1 with 3 points in 10 games
to 1 point in 13 games with 12 minutes on ice

Especially given the team made a SCF inspite of that decline by pushing him to the 6th/7th D position with minimal minutes only when paird with Weber or Petry
The way they had to use him in the playoffs for him not to be a liability really hurt him IMO
Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
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Quoting: FiveForFighting
I think the price for Kulak is a 3rd


I've got no problem giving it to him but he's declined not improved
1 good road trip in his home province doesnt leave me star struck
If he put that effort together every night sure but he doesnt
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
I've got no problem giving it to him but he's declined not improved
1 good road trip in his home province doesnt leave me star struck
If he put that effort together every night sure but he doesnt


Fair enough. I get what youre saying just feel like theres most likely a team that would pay that price with the current market
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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Reilly >Kulak so im confused about this statement
He's a top 4 D on a playoff team 40 seconds or 1 shift from being 2nd in team minutes


Reilly in MTL wasn’t good
Kulak is superior than Reilly was
Mar. 13, 2022 at 7:17 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: Billy739
I think he takes not in the role dropping from top 4 minutes year 1 with 3 points in 10 games
to 1 point in 13 games with 12 minutes on ice

Especially given the team made a SCF inspite of that decline by pushing him to the 6th/7th D position with minimal minutes only when paird with Weber or Petry
The way they had to use him in the playoffs for him not to be a liability really hurt him IMO


An average of 14 minutes of ice during the 2020-2021 playoffs isn't minimal.
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
An average of 14 minutes of ice during the 2020-2021 playoffs isn't minimal.


how much time do you think bottom pair d gets?
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Mar. 13, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
Reilly >Kulak so im confused about this statement
He's a top 4 D on a playoff team 40 seconds or 1 shift from being 2nd in team minutes


I see you don’t know/remember who Mike Reilly in MTL was. Litteraly Chris Wideman but even less impactful since he’s a LD. Also Reilly remains a bottom pairing D. He’s playing a lot since Boston’s left side is truly abysmal.
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Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:40 a.m.
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I see you don’t know/remember who Mike Reilly in MTL was. Litteraly Chris Wideman but even less impactful since he’s a LD. Also Reilly remains a bottom pairing D. He’s playing a lot since Boston’s left side is truly abysmal.


i do and unlike you i got a University run account to back up my opinion
You have talking like a child because you dont have Facts to back you

In MTL he started his first season at 20 minutes
Alzner and Schlemko just screwed us and Chiarot, Eddy,and Savard hadnt arrived

If you want to CHOOSE to be a Fool based on your clearly flawed memory
Do it on another Post as he played Top 4 since leaving MIN for the most part minus those 14 games his last season
We had used Reilly right up until Chiarot who we signed expect WPG like 18 minute max on 3 pair walks in averaging 23 minutes

We traded him then used it return to get Scandella who we used for a bit and flipped for a 2nd and a 4th
All a possibility because Chiarot was expected to be a 3rd paid Savard type D who's basically lead MTL in Minutes since arriving

If you want to CHOOSE to be Ignorant
I choose not to indulge you anymore then i would bigots or prejudice
Educated yourself or stop following this sport
Your ignorance is damaging it

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/reillmi01.html
Mar. 15, 2022 at 7:49 a.m.
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Quoting: drambui
how much time do you think bottom pair d gets?


Trick Question right ?

Average system doesnt have multiple D capable of 25+ minutes
Nor do they have all top 4 playing 22+ required for a bottom pair to play less then 16 minutes

Half the leage's got a #5 D who aborbs minutes anywhere from 16-21 minutes on ice when needed
They're labeled like Kulak based on Ignorance as a 7th D. Reality is #5D's like Savard often end up on Contenders as #7
Then people who've never played see that as that players new value

Even MTL with Weber,Chiarot,& Petry playing 24-25 minutes they still needed Eddy at 20 to be able to play bottom pair at the numbers you suggests
Its why Reilly >Kulak he's capable of more and has been since first showing in MTL
We traded him rather then lower him in the system so he became worth as little as Kulak
Although we had trouble getting a 2nd outright for Reilly that's what the end of the Trade Tree looks like
Chiarot pushed him out of Top 4 so we traded him for a pick we flipped for Struggling Scandella who we then flipped @50 RS for a 2nd on top of a returned 4th

Kulak there is no mental gymnastics or Bergavin Classic 3-4 step trade to get more
Thats saying something given he turned his first prospect signed in Diaz into Danault and Romanov
He even turned to busted AHLer's from TML into Kulak
But he couldnt trade Kulak despite actively trying this summer when he came off a SCF
Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:03 a.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
An average of 14 minutes of ice during the 2020-2021 playoffs isn't minimal.

The 12.52 only has Rookie Romanov ,Staal and Gustafsson playing less
The 1st playoff he was in a top 4 role and fell short leading to Eddy being acquired just like Reilly falling short lead to Chiarot being acquired

Nice Try calling it 14 minutes trying to play it up like he was just below middle of the pack
Reality is last time we saw a decline this big was Reilly after Chiarot showed
Same as we'll see now that Eddys back

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/MTL/2020.html
Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:08 a.m.
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Quoting: GMs
Reilly in MTL wasn’t good
Kulak is superior than Reilly was


Reilly played more straight out the gate then Kulak has ever averaged in MTL to date
Reilly was our top 4 behind only Weber and Petry in Minutes
After letting go of Markov,Emelin,Beaulieu like we did our LD was in free fall
Mete and Reilly took on bigger roles as such as did Kulak not to lon after joining them
Reilly and Kulak both pushed past Mete but one did it on Top Pair and 1 didnt (Kulak)

Reality is whether he deserved it or not Mike Reilly player more , did more and should be worth more
Because i didnt feel like arguing i matched it out of Pity mostly coupled with not wanting to have to remind people The Facts of the Situation

Only real difference here is Reilly's actually really fast and good as OZ entry's
It gave MTL a 2nd D doing Petry's style of Rushing the OZ with speed
Kulaks better on PK then Reilly but thats really it
https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/MTL/2020.html
 
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