Prediction based on Manson trade

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Created by: DH28Hockey

Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 14, 2022

Published: Mar. 14, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

PHI

FLA

Braun, Justin ($900,000 retained)
Giroux, Claude ($4,000,000 retained)
2023 3rd round pick (PHI)

Buyouts

Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Claude Giroux: $4,000,000 (96.68%)
Justin Braun: $900,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$81,500,000	$65,645,428	$0	$2,725,000	$15,854,572

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Farabee, Joel $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) LW, RW UFA - 1		Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Denisenko, Grigori $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 2	Hayes, Kevin $3,571,429$3,571,429 C NMC UFA - 5	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
van Riemsdyk, James $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Tippett, Owen $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Lindblom, Oskar $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Frost, Morgan $863,333$863,333 C RFA - 1	Mayhew, Gerald $800,000$800,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Brassard, Derick $412,500$412,500 C, LW UFA - 1	MacEwen, Zack $825,000$825,000 RW, C UFA - 1
	Brown, Patrick $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 4	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD UFA - 1	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 3
Sanheim, Travis $4,675,000$4,675,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Seeler, Nick $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Jones, Martin $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
	York, Cam $880,833$880,833 ($425,000$425K) LD/RD RFA - 2
Carlsson, Lucas $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Yandle, Keith $900,000$900,000 LD NTC UFA - 1	Thompson, Nate $800,000$800,000 C UFA - 1	Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 6
Connauton, Kevin $825,000$825,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Morin, Samuel $750,000$750,000 LD, LW UFA - 1	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 1

Mar. 14, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.

jet11567

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Yeah I’d cry if Florida got Giroux no way the leafs beat them with him

Mar. 14, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.

csick

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Both Denisenko AND Tippett seems like too much

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Mar. 14, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.

bagelbob

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if i were philly i'd be looking at samoskevich, i like him more than both of those other two, but maybe florida won't move him.

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Mar. 14, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.

HOCKEYBOY448

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Seems like a lot. Curious what pieces are you giving up for who? Figure that’ll give a better picture of the trade.

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Mar. 14, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.

DH28Hockey

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Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448

Seems like a lot. Curious what pieces are you giving up for who? Figure that’ll give a better picture of the trade.

Giroux = Carlsson Tippett 1st, Braun and 3rd = Denisenko. I think Manson and Braun are close in terms of quality, and think Denisenko while getting a 3rd back is a better bargain than Hellesson and a 2nd. The Giroux part is just sort of what I always kind of thought it'd be

Mar. 14, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.

DH28Hockey

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Quoting: bagelbob

if i were philly i'd be looking at samoskevich, i like him more than both of those other two, but maybe florida won't move him.

Can honestly say I don't know much about him

Mar. 14, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.

ReelBigFan

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I think that Manson trade just made “retained salary” worth a lot. Helle was a guy I thought was untouchable. Giroux is going to be undervalued by a lot of people, but his face off skill, special teams play, and overall leadership and desire is going to make whomever gets him a serious threat. I think Giroux is worth a bit more on his own without the salary retained

Mar. 14, 2022 at 11:26 p.m.

Kosterjr

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A couple of things. First Cats want a LHD so Braun isn’t needed and second Giroux decides his own fate so the value will be determined by if officially he waives for multiple teams. As of right now the teams like Florida and Colorado are rumored to be places he would waive but he hasn’t officially authorized anything.

Mar. 15, 2022 at 8:09 a.m.

vinny82

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I am hoping Giroux will waive to go to Florida, NY, or even Toronto or Boston. All this AVs talk and they don't really have much of value to offer.

Mar. 15, 2022 at 9:57 a.m.

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RaZZe

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Quoting: DH28Hockey

The Panthers don't really have interest in Braun. He plays on the wrong side, so he'd provide no upgrade in the top4

Mar. 15, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.

#11

bagelbob

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Quoting: DH28Hockey

Can honestly say I don't know much about him

he's florida's 2021 first round pick, a freshman at michigan right now putting up solid numbers (9-17-26 in 36 games) without the power play time, TOI and top linemates, and he looked amazing at world juniors for the ten minutes those were going on. he's a lot younger than denisenko and tippett so he's got more development runway but he's also unlikely to make the nhl for another season or two since he's still just 19

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