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Who will Guerin convince to bite

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Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 17, 2022
Published: Mar. 17, 2022
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Before you all trash me, yes I understand these are overpays but if opposing GMs are buying into the McBain hype I could realistically see at least one of them overpaying for him. Darren Dreger also reported that McBains price could potentially be on the rise with the amount of interest in him rising so you never know.
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
Everyone says we have no leverage when in reality we have all the leverage, he’s given Guerin a list of teams he’s willing to sign with so if a team trades for him they are guaranteed to have him on the roster vs having to enter a bidding war if he goes to FA.


Got a source on that "list of teams he's willing to sign"?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
Yeah I guess maybe I shouldn’t be surprised, but it’s just such an elementary concept. I’m confused on how such a large portion of this site simply can’t grasp it.


They must’ve failed economics!
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Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
What part of “yes I understand these are overpays” didn’t you understand?


What part of what i said do you not understand.

I get that you’re acknowledging these are overpays. I think you’re going so far that they aren’t overpays, they’re just crazy.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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Should be McBain for Poehling, he's a Minnesota homeboy. Also, i think their value are pretty similar (3rd-4th line center).

MTL is not giving their 2nd (almost a 1st) for McBain.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Got a source on that "list of teams he's willing to sign"?


No I don’t think Guerin benefit’s whatsoever by releasing that list so I highly doubt we ever will see it.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
What part of what i said do you not understand.

I get that you’re acknowledging these are overpays. I think you’re going so far that they aren’t overpays, they’re just crazy.


The point of them is to be crazy, the exact reason I stated that they are overpays. If I didn’t think they were crazy proposals I wouldn’t have stated that they are overpays.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
The point of them is to be crazy, the exact reason I stated that they are overpays. If I didn’t think they were crazy proposals I wouldn’t have stated that they are overpays.


You’re not realizing that there are overpays, and then ludicrous concepts. If you want to be crazy why not ask for McDavid or matthews or Makar? See the point?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
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As it stands right now, Arizona holds 6 picks between 31 and 43. For a team destined to play in a 5000 seat arena for the next 3 years, it doesn’t seem unrealistic that they’d give up one of those picks for a guy they could probably slot into their lineup immediately. And if other teams, reportedly, are interested it will naturally drive up the price. It shouldn’t be that hard of a concept for hockey fans to grasp.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
You’re not realizing that there are overpays, and then ludicrous concepts. If you want to be crazy why not ask for McDavid or matthews or Makar? See the point?


😂😂You’ve contradicted yourself like 5 times. When I said in the description that I understand these are overpays, I mean I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE OVERPAYS, that’s me recognizing these are overpays. And then you’re gonna say that these proposals are crazy and then 2 minutes later say that if I want to be crazy I should ask for McDavid in return. You’re all caught up in a knot of semantics. You’re arguing with yourself at this point.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: BoredWildFan
As it stands right now, Arizona holds 6 picks between 31 and 43. For a team destined to play in a 5000 seat arena for the next 3 years, it doesn’t seem unrealistic that they’d give up one of those picks for a guy they could probably slot into their lineup immediately. And if other teams, reportedly, are interested it will naturally drive up the price. It shouldn’t be that hard of a concept for hockey fans to grasp.


Based on 90% of these comments it’s very hard for hockey fans to understand
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
No I don’t think Guerin benefit’s whatsoever by releasing that list so I highly doubt we ever will see it.


I don’t you even have a source on a McBain's teams list existing at all .
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
Yes that’s the point, hence the name of the forum. Who will Guerin get to bite?, as a Wild fan I don’t really care where he gets traded too but a GM being dumb enough to overpay for a player is all too common at this point in the season.


They won't though that's the point. Think of it this way would you pay a 1st + 2nd to sign Harris? Cause that's what you are asking everyone to do
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
😂😂You’ve contradicted yourself like 5 times. When I said in the description that I understand these are overpays, I mean I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE OVERPAYS, that’s me recognizing these are overpays. And then you’re gonna say that these proposals are crazy and then 2 minutes later say that if I want to be crazy I should ask for McDavid in return. You’re all caught up in a knot of semantics. You’re arguing with yourself at this point.


I haven’t contradicted myself once. You’re just not understanding something very very simple. If you go back and read my posts you should be able to figure this out.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
I don’t you even have a source on a McBain's teams list existing at all .


Quote from a Michael Russo article on the Athletic:

“Montreal, Winnipeg and Arizona are three of many teams showing interest, and the asking price is a second-round pick. Guerin has told McBain’s adviser that he had better come to him with multiple options or he’ll make McBain wait to sign an entry-level contract as a free agent in August. (March 17)”

You can read the full article on the athletic if you’re subscribed.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:38 p.m.
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McBain is a pending UFA in 2 months or so, Noway you're getting those kind of returns. Detroit definitely says no. Soderblom is going to be a stud.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
I haven’t contradicted myself once. You’re just not understanding something very very simple. If you go back and read my posts you should be able to figure this out.


You can go back and read your own comments to understand that you’ve contradicted yourself several times. I refuse to argue with stupid at this point, on lookers won’t recognize the difference✌🏽
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
McBain is a pending UFA in 2 months or so, Noway you're getting those kind of returns. Detroit definitely says no. Soderblom is going to be a stud.


Read the description
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:41 p.m.
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They won't though that's the point. Think of it this way would you pay a 1st + 2nd to sign Harris? Cause that's what you are asking everyone to do


No I wouldn’t but some GM is stupid enough to overpay based on hype, I’ve said this about 5 times.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:45 p.m.
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Read the description


I read the description, But bottom line is he's a pending UFA that probably has a short list of teams he'd be interested in. At best he's worth no more then a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 9:47 p.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
I read the description, But bottom line is he's a pending UFA that probably has a short list of teams he'd be interested in. At best he's worth no more then a 2nd or 3rd round pick.


I agree with you but overpays at the deadline is all too common. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case when this trade finally hits the fan.
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:10 p.m.
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Never in a billion years for @habs
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyman1208
Quote from a Michael Russo article on the Athletic:

“Montreal, Winnipeg and Arizona are three of many teams showing interest, and the asking price is a second-round pick. Guerin has told McBain’s adviser that he had better come to him with multiple options or he’ll make McBain wait to sign an entry-level contract as a free agent in August. (March 17)”

You can read the full article on the athletic if you’re subscribed.


So, no confirmation of a list, but confirmation that the asking price is a 2nd.... and you just doubled it for fun...
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:54 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
So, no confirmation of a list, but confirmation that the asking price is a 2nd.... and you just doubled it for fun...


Yes because I think that some GM is dumb enough to overpay. Do you have an issue with that?
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:54 p.m.
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Never in a billion years for habs


Read the description
Mar. 17, 2022 at 10:56 p.m.
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Read the description


I did, but no way Habs do it
 
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