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8 player deal Chychrun to LA - probably terrible

Created by: Neiler
Published: Apr. 12, 2022 at 8:04 a.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 186/186 (100%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the cap hit of one of the teams is below the lower limit

Logo of the Arizona CoyotesArizona Coyotes

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Chychrun, JakobArizona CoyotesNHL-$4,600,000011---0000--
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the Dallas StarsDAL)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Zaitsev, NikitaOttawa SenatorsNHL-$4,500,000011---0000--
Brännström, ErikWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsNHL-$0011---0000--
Kupari, RasmusWaivers ExemptLos Angeles KingsNHL-$863,333011---0000--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK)---100------
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOTT)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$33,226,66616266731215
Change-$763,33321211-1
Final$32,463,333 (↓)18 (↑)27 (↑)69 (↑)4 (↑)13 (↑)14 (↓)000

Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLos Angeles Kings

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Roy, MattLos Angeles KingsNHL-$3,150,000011---0000--
Vilardi, GabrielWaivers ExemptLos Angeles KingsNHL-$0011---0000--
Kupari, RasmusWaivers ExemptLos Angeles KingsNHL-$863,333011---0000--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK)---100------
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Chychrun, JakobArizona CoyotesNHL-$4,600,000011---0000--
Gustavsson, FilipWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsMinor-$0011-------00
Formenton, AlexWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsNHL-$0011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$21,263,3331431603712
Change-$586,667-100-1-10
Final$20,676,666 (↓)13 (↓)31602 (↓)6 (↓)12000

Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOttawa Senators

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Gustavsson, FilipWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsMinor-$0011-------00
Zaitsev, NikitaOttawa SenatorsNHL-$4,500,000011---0000--
Brännström, ErikWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsNHL-$0011---0000--
Formenton, AlexWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsNHL-$0011---0000--
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOTT)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Roy, MattLos Angeles KingsNHL-$3,150,000011---0000--
Vilardi, GabrielWaivers ExemptLos Angeles KingsNHL-$0011---0000--
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the Dallas StarsDAL)---001------
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$21,680,9531533633614
Change$1,350,000-1-1-2001
Final$23,030,953 (↑)14 (↓)32 (↓)61 (↓)3615 (↑)000
Apr. 12, 2022 at 10:06 a.m.
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I don't see Ottawa going near this tbh.
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 11:16 a.m.
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Don't think Arizona goes for this. They need a better prospect coming back
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Ottawa gets medium return.
LA gets an insane deal
Ari gets the shaft.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: reelkena
Ottawa gets medium return.
LA gets an insane deal
Ari gets the shaft.


Ottawa gets the L (no return for many decent young players)
Ari not great return
LA robbery
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 5:22 a.m.
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Thanks for feedback. Seems like overvaluing Kupari is the biggest problem here. Was surprised anyone has Ottawa issues though... Zaitsev replaced with a solid defenceman would have such a massive impact on them.

I had it like this:

ARI:
Chychrun + 4th = Kupari + 1st + 2nd
Brannstrom is the gift for taking Zaitsev

LA:
Roy = Formenton
Kupari + 1st + Vilardi = Chychrun
3rd = Gustavsson

OTT:
Formenton = Roy
Brannstrom is the price for ditching Zaitsev
Gustavsson + 2nd = Vilardi + 3rd + 4th
Apr. 13, 2022 at 11:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Moller
Thanks for feedback. Seems like overvaluing Kupari is the biggest problem here. Was surprised anyone has Ottawa issues though... Zaitsev replaced with a solid defenceman would have such a massive impact on them.

I had it like this:

ARI:
Chychrun + 4th = Kupari + 1st + 2nd
Brannstrom is the gift for taking Zaitsev

LA:
Roy = Formenton
Kupari + 1st + Vilardi = Chychrun
3rd = Gustavsson

OTT:
Formenton = Roy
Brannstrom is the price for ditching Zaitsev
Gustavsson + 2nd = Vilardi + 3rd + 4th


Except you neglet the fact that Ottawa doesn't need to do any of these moves and to loss a top four defesemen for giving up a player is absurd. Brannstromm has become a staple in the top four and has looked amazing. Gustavsson is worth far more than a third to Ottawa cause he is the goalie of the future still and Formenton is usefull as well and there is not a need for Roy. The problem with this is that Ottawa has does not need to be in this deal and shouldn't make this deal cause they instantly loss several good pieces and gain nothing of value back for them.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
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Except you neglet the fact that Ottawa doesn't need to do any of these moves and to loss a top four defesemen for giving up a player is absurd. Brannstromm has become a staple in the top four and has looked amazing. Gustavsson is worth far more than a third to Ottawa cause he is the goalie of the future still and Formenton is usefull as well and there is not a need for Roy. The problem with this is that Ottawa has does not need to be in this deal and shouldn't make this deal cause they instantly loss several good pieces and gain nothing of value back for them.


This is a very biased sounding response.

Brannstrom is far from a top 4 staple and in fact might be struggling to get into a game the second Sanderson steps into one. As much as I'd like to see them play him I'm not convinced the outlook is good at this point.

Gustavsson has been extremely average and unless the team unloads Murray somehow, he's leaving anyway. Goalies don't traditionally get great returns unless they are rockstars.

Formenton is quite useful and a great guy to have but Ottawa needs a top 4RD pretty badly. Roy would help there a ton. He does not add "nothing of value".

You have to give to get. These moves solve problems, not create them.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Moller
This is a very biased sounding response.

Brannstrom is far from a top 4 staple and in fact might be struggling to get into a game the second Sanderson steps into one. As much as I'd like to see them play him I'm not convinced the outlook is good at this point.

Gustavsson has been extremely average and unless the team unloads Murray somehow, he's leaving anyway. Goalies don't traditionally get great returns unless they are rockstars.

Formenton is quite useful and a great guy to have but Ottawa needs a top 4RD pretty badly. Roy would help there a ton. He does not add "nothing of value".

You have to give to get. These moves solve problems, not create them.



No, these moves create problems, soon enough Ottawa will have Jacob Bernard-Docker and Lassi Thompson on the blueline on the right side and Brannstromm looked really good with Chabot.

There is no need to give up Gustavsson and it makes no sense to do that. Also Formenton is worth more than a top four RD that Ottawa doesn't really need to them as he provides crucial scoring depth and is an elite penalty killer.

If you don't do these moves you have a better more complete team. Doing these moves you move out prospects and players all while getting worse.


Also

Brannstromm (can play both sides)
Hamonic
Zub
Thompson
JBD
Zaitsev
Guennette
is already a crowded right side. Don't need another defender there as it only pushes prospects down.

Maybe think about Ottawa's needs before you trade away usefull players for nothing in return.
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Apr. 17, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.
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Ottawa gets like nothing they decrease their prospect pool
 
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