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Jets need changes but they wont do it

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Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 12, 2022
Published: Apr. 12, 2022
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1.
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  1. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
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Nobody seems more fitting for a fresh start like Kristian Vesalainen. Despite all the opportunities he has been given by the Jets, he has failed to make the argument that he may be prominent in the top six or even the bottom six. It simply has not worked out in Winnipeg and therefore, he is traded to a team that could use some younger pieces up front. I think at this point, a third round pick is the most the Jets can salvage from a team, considering his lacklustre play.
DAL
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian [RFA Rights]
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The Dallas Stars take a chance on Kristian Vesalainen, hoping he can find his scoring touch in the NHL. The Stars could also benefit Vesalainen with the openings up front in Dallas, considering Radulov potentially leaving the team and Seguin and Benn not getting any younger these days.
2.
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  1. 2023 4th round pick (ARI)
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Although the Jets needed to solve some issues on defence last off season, I never really understood why they traded for Nate Schmidt to be completely honest. Sure he can be a great player offensively and is a great character in the dressing room but his contract simply does not make any sense at all for the direction of this team. Schmidt is making just under 6 million dollars for three more years after this season concludes. The term on that deal is wayyyyy to long, considering that guys like Heinola, Samberg, and Kovacevic are NHL ready waiting for a spot. As a part of the retool of this group, the Jets move on from Schmidt after only one year and move his contract to Arizona. Because of Schmidt’s inconsistent play, and the fact that he makes a lot of money for a while, the Jets add in a sweetener pick to get the deal done with the Coyotes.
ARI
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. 2022 6th round pick (WPG)
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The Coyotes are once again, sticking to what they know best and taking on bad contracts to attain more draft picks. Although they still give up a fourth and only get a sixth, they still make their team a little more competitive for upcoming seasons and also pay less than the Jets did to acquire Schmidt the year prior (a third to the Canucks).
3.
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    Although I know the Jets will never do this, I have chosen to buy out Blake Wheeler. Although he has done a lot for this team, it is clear the team needs a new direction and a new leadership group. Although he still provides good offence for the team, he is making just over 8 million dollars as a 35 year old, and has also continued to prove that he does not care for the commitment to defence in the defensive zone. Wheeler has been known to create a hierarchical standpoint in the dressing room, which creates tension in the dressing room and is never good for any of the young guys coming in the room. Change is needed and that is why this move is made. The buyout saves a lot of money for a few seasons and then will cost us some money a couple seasons after.
    ARI
      (Ignore the Arizona logo)- it wouldn’t allow me to comment on the buyout alone so I ha dot create a trade to comment on the buyout of Blake Wheeler.
      4.
      WPG
      1. Pelletier, Jakob
      2. Poirier, Jérémie
      3. 2022 2nd round pick (CGY)
      4. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
      5. 2023 4th round pick (CGY)
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      Yes, when I said this team needs a new leadership group I was not just talking about Blake Wheeler but also Mark Scheifele too. It’s sad to see him go but at the same time, this team needs new leaders that are willing to be committed defensively. The locker room has obviously been tamed so that it’s players think whenever they are playing bad it is okay to spring on excuse after excuse to avoid the real problems. Mark and Blake have consistently talked about how Covid has been a real impact this year on the team but every team has to deal with Covid. Scheifele is a great player with high end skill, he can skate, shoot, pass and has great hockey IQ however, has no idea how to defend. Scheifele easily has had one of the worst defensive metrics over the past four seasons along with his buddy Wheeler and it needs to stop now. The Jets finally refresh their roster and trade Scheifele to the Flames for highly anticipated prospects Jacob Pelletier (LW) and Jeremie Poirier (LD), both high scoring prospects that will be huge pieces for this team in the future. The Jets also fetch a first and second round pick along with a fourth round pick. The value here is absolutely fair in my mind. If Mark Scheifele is traded, the trade should easily be compared with Jack Eichel, two players in my mind with similar value. Jansen Harkins is also given a much needed fresh start in Calgary.
      CGY
      1. Harkins, Jansen [RFA Rights]
      2. Scheifele, Mark
      3. 2022 7th round pick (WPG)
      4. 2023 5th round pick (NYR)
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      The Calgary Flames get a much needed 2 line centre to play behind Flames star Elias Lindholm in Mark Scheifele. Yes, as of right now, I think Lindholm is the better player and would be still on the first line considering his chemistry with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. Although the Flames aren’t too thrilled with parting ways with some of their top prospects and their first round pick, at the end of the day you need to give up good to get good. The Jets also add in some late draft picks just to sweeten the deal a bit.
      5.
      WPG
      1. Chychrun, Jakob
      2. Crouse, Lawson [RFA Rights]
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      The Jets need a bit of a revamp on defence. They need bigger bodies that can come in, move the puck out of the zone efficiently and be physical as well. This is exactly what Jacob Chychrun provides, not to mention the offence package he can bring to the table as well. He is really cheap and will go straight to playing top defensive minutes on the team. He can be a game changer on the blue line for this team. Aside Chychrun, the Jets also trade for RFA Lawson Crouse, a big presence that can play physically in the bottom six while also providing some offence and responsibility. He is a perfect fit with the Jets, as they are a team that could use some more grit and toughness. Because Chychrun is very good and for cheap, the Jets give up multiple values picks and give up defensive prospect Ville Heinola. It’s sad to see him go but at the same time, the Jets could use some more bigger bodies on the blue line with already lots of small guys in Pionk, Morrisey, and Demelo. Heinola could also use a fresh start, being taken in and out of the lineup with the surplus of young defencemen in the Jets lineup. The trade to Arizona will give Ville some stability.
      ARI
      1. Heinola, Ville
      2. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
      3. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
      4. 2024 1st round pick (WPG)
      5. 2024 2nd round pick (WPG)
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      For Arizona, they give up two great values players in Crouse and Chychrun however get loads of value back and continue to stock pile the draft picks. Arizona gets a first, two seconds, a third and basically another first round pick in former first round pick Ville Heinola. Although losing Chychrun hurts a lot, Heinola eases the blow a bit with his quick puck moving ability and ability to produce offence. Although great offensively, Ville struggles in the defensive zone at times, specifically with teams that like the high paced forecheck style of game.
      6.
      WPG
      1. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
      2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
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      Once again, the Jets need a revamping of their defensive core and I think Brenden Dillon is one of the odd men out. He hasn’t really fit in great in Winnipeg and although it’s only been one year, the Jets move him to the Canucks for high draft picks in which they can potentially flip as part of a package for a top six forward.
      VAN
      1. Dillon, Brenden
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      The Canucks have great offensive talent and skill however are once again struggling because of their poor defense. I think Brenden Dillon is a guy that would fit in well with the Canucks and potentially bring some stability to their blue line.
      7.
      WPG
      1. Eberle, Jordan
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      After trading forwards Mark Scheifele and Blake Wheeler, some forwards openings were made available in the top six. And because the Jets typically can’t convince free agents to sign with them, they usually have to trade for players. When evaluating the spots in the top six, it was made clear that there was a big hole in the RW position, so the Jets clean this up by acquiring veteran forward Jordan Eberle. Although this trade may be complicated with his no movement clause (he probably won’t wanna come to Winnipeg), if this trade did come to fruition it would be a perfect fit for the Jets as he is highly productive offensively, is responsible defensively, can provide some leadership to the revamped core of the Jets with his veteran experience and has two years left on his deal. The two year term is a perfect term because it makes the Jets extremely competitive while also giving Jets prospects like Chibrikov and Lucius a couple more years to develop and then they will be able to fill up those rolls in the top six once Eberle contract expires. I can definitely see Eberle having great chemistry with Connor and Dubois or you could even move him around with perfetti and Pelletier, giving the young guys someone to look up to for guidance. Although Svechnikov has had a pretty good season with the Jets, I don’t see him as a long term fit with the team.
      SEA
      1. Nikkanen, Henri
      2. Svechnikov, Evgeny [RFA Rights]
      3. 2022 2nd round pick (CGY)
      4. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
      5. 2023 4th round pick (CGY)
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      The Seattle Kraken are a team heading in the direction of selling off valuable pieces to get young guys and picks to build around Beniers. The Kraken know Eberle obviously isn’t a long term fit and trade him for great value with two seconds, a fourth, Henri Nikkanen and a guy with a lot of potential upside in Evgeny Svechnikov.
      8.
      WPG
      1. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
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      Despite Stanley shockingly coming out of nowhere last season and proving to all the haters that he is not a bust, he has still proven to be only an inconsistent 3 pairing d man. He has come a long way compared to when he first started however he still has major holes in his game. Stanley does not use his big frame enough to get body position in front of the net, he has poor puck management, he has proved to be an unreliable penalty killer and always seems to be missing the net when he has a chance on net. Stanley will be missed by Jets fans but in the end, spots need to be made for better players like Samberg,Chychrun and Kovacevic on the back end.
      NJD
      1. Stanley, Logan
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      New Jersey has consistently allowed 4+ goals this season and could use some more defensive depth. Adding Stanley to the backend could spice up their defence and potentially provide some surprising stability to the team. PK Subban is also a UFA this summer, so a spot opens up for the Devils.
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      Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: gary_bettman
      We don't need yet another LD. Super easy no.


      Changes have been made
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.
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      Schmidt can at least get a third.

      Chychrun isn't needed and even on a great deal, he harms the cap room. Heinola and Samberg are on ELC's which helps.

      Svechnikov will score 50 points if he's permanently put on the KFC-PLD line; where he belongs.
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      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
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      Quoting: Benzino204
      Schmidt can at least get a third.

      Chychrun isn't needed and even on a great deal, he harms the cap room. Heinola and Samberg are on ELC's which helps.

      Svechnikov will score 50 points if he's permanently put on the KFC-PLD line; where he belongs.


      Svech could stay on that first line next year but I’m not sure how long that lasts once chibrikov and Lucius and those guys start coming in. I don’t think There’s enough room for Heinola on this team anymore. We will see what the defensive situation is next year but if Samberg and Kovacevic aren’t main stays I will be very disappointed.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
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      Quoting: YourWinnipegJets
      mokumboi how so?


      Because that is not at all what he's asking for. You're offering a B+-ish small LD prospect and four draft picks, half of which are pushed off for over two years, including the highest pick, and all of them quite conceivably being mid-to-very low picks in their rounds. It's not even close, man.



      Quoting: YourWinnipegJets
      I disagree with your assessment.


      Dude. C'mon.
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      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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      Next season, Arizona is going to have trouble putting 16 guys on the ice who have significant quality NHL experience. Here, you want them to trade away two of their starters for Ville Heinola, a 21-year-old who may not stick in the NHL next season even on the Coyotes. Moreover, I don't see Heinola and three high draft picks as "loads of value" since they are apparently asking for a top-6 forward and top-4 defenseman plus a first-round draft pick for Chychrun, whom they have no motivation to trade in the first place.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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      Quoting: mokumboi
      Because that is not at all what he's asking for. You're offering a B+-ish small LD prospect and four draft picks, half of which are pushed off for over two years, including the highest pick, and all of them quite conceivably being mid-to-very low picks in their rounds. It's not even close, man.


      I didn't even notice that the first and one of the seconds were over-the-horizon.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:16 p.m.
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Next season, Arizona is going to have trouble putting 16 guys on the ice who have significant quality NHL experience. Here, you want them to trade away two of their starters for Ville Heinola, a 21-year-old who may not stick in the NHL next season even on the Coyotes. Moreover, I don't see Heinola and three high draft picks as "loads of value" since they are apparently asking for a top-6 forward and top-4 defenseman plus a first-round draft pick for Chychrun, whom they have no motivation to trade in the first place.


      Obviously they do have motivation to tarde him if they were heavily shopping him at the trade deadline. Also the Coyotes never said they were interested in a top six forward and a top four defensemen. The ask was Three first round picks and a prospect. The reality is that no one is going fo give up three firsts for Chychrun, so I traded a first and another first in the form of Ville Heinola and two seconds+ a third. Sure a little more could have been added but this value is not miles from what would be accepted.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.
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      Obviously they do have motivation to tarde him if they were heavily shopping him at the trade deadline. Also the Coyotes never said they were interested in a top six forward and a top four defensemen. The ask was Three first round picks and a prospect. The reality is that no one is going fo give up three firsts for Chychrun, so I traded a first and another first in the form of Ville Heinola and two seconds+ a third. Sure a little more could have been added but this value is not miles from what would be accepted.


      It is with Lawson Crouse included. My point is that you can take him out and you're still short. How does your offer compare with Alex Turcotte, Sean Walker, LA's 2022 (not 2024) first and LA's 2023 second?
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      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.
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      Svech could stay on that first line next year but I’m not sure how long that lasts once chibrikov and Lucius and those guys start coming in. I don’t think There’s enough room for Heinola on this team anymore. We will see what the defensive situation is next year but if Samberg and Kovacevic aren’t main stays I will be very disappointed.


      Neither Chibrikov or Lucius have been signed yet so there is no telling when that will happen, but you're looking at least two years down the road if the rumours are true and Lucius stays in college. There's room for Heinola. Before he was unjustly sent down he had 5 points in 6 games, and has shown great composure and a fantastic first pass out of the zone. He has more value currently than Kovacevic; who looks good, but isn't better than what's in front of him.
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      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:35 p.m.
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      It is with Lawson Crouse included. My point is that you can take him out and you're still short. How does your offer compare with Alex Turcotte, Sean Walker, LA's 2022 (not 2024) first and LA's 2023 second?


      I don’t see where that trade is coming from and how it is relevant.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: Benzino204
      Neither Chibrikov or Lucius have been signed yet so there is no telling when that will happen, but you're looking at least two years down the road if the rumours are true and Lucius stays in college. There's room for Heinola. Before he was unjustly sent down he had 5 points in 6 games, and has shown great composure and a fantastic first pass out of the zone. He has more value currently than Kovacevic; who looks good, but isn't better than what's in front of him.


      What are the rumors?
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.
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      I don’t see where that trade is coming from and how it is relevant.


      It's the standing offer from Kings fans (for at least three months now) and it's relevant because it's miles better than your package.
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      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: Benzino204
      Neither Chibrikov or Lucius have been signed yet so there is no telling when that will happen, but you're looking at least two years down the road if the rumours are true and Lucius stays in college. There's room for Heinola. Before he was unjustly sent down he had 5 points in 6 games, and has shown great composure and a fantastic first pass out of the zone. He has more value currently than Kovacevic; who looks good, but isn't better than what's in front of him.


      Lucius and Chibrikov will 100% be at least two more years however because that is such a short term need in the top six, I don’t think Svechnikov will stay if he knows it will just be for two years. My assumption is that Svechnikov wants some stability where he plays. For the two years until guys like Lucius and Chibrikov come in, I would like some top end talent to play with Dubois and Connor. I don’t know if Svech can consistently keep up with the other two because they are just so fast. Having him either way though would be fine by me
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:42 p.m.
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      It's the standing offer from Kings fans (for at least three months now) and it's relevant because it's miles better than your package.


      Haven’t heard of that one before.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      I don't get it either, he hasn't even been bad defensively and honestly he's a WAY better PP QB than Morrissey is, if Schmidt was on the top PP like he should be the PP is probably doing better, Schmidt has more points and no one wants him traded.. lol 😆


      Thank you!! tears of joy
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.
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      Thank you!! tears of joy


      Morrissey has easily been the best Jet defencemen this year
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:53 p.m.
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      Morrissey has easily been the best Jet defencemen this year


      Who said he hasn't been?
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      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
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      Quoting: YourWinnipegJets
      Haven’t heard of that one before.


      You also hadn't heard of the demand reported back in December of a top-6 forward, a top-4 defenseman, and a first-round draft pick, which has provided the structure for most of the reasonable Chychrun trade suggestions since then.

      Here are all of the NHL-quality players currently projected for the Arizona roster next season:
      Travis Boyd
      Jeff Chychrun
      Shayne Gostisbehere
      Clayton Keller
      Jack McBain
      Nick Ritchie
      Nick Schmaltz
      plus the moribund Andrew Ladd
      plus RFAs Lawson Crouse, Christian Fischer and Barrett Hayton

      The idea that Arizona would accept as the major assets in a Chychrun trade a kid who may not make the team next season and a 2024 first who won't hit the NHL until 2026 is counter-intuitive, to say the least.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.
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      Although I agree that this could be a good group, I still think I would have Kovacevic in the lineup as opposed to Schmidt. He’s way cheaper and is better defensively and can kill penalties. He’s the real deal.


      I think Schmidt is good in the room and his cap hit is a bit hard to move. Keep him next to Heinola for veteran-prospect relationship purposes and have Kovy in the minors for development sakes
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      You also hadn't heard of the demand reported back in December of a top-6 forward, a top-4 defenseman, and a first-round draft pick, which has provided the structure for most of the reasonable Chychrun trade suggestions since then.


      I get it bro, you don’t like the trade lol. U have only said it ten times now.

      Here are all of the NHL-quality players currently projected for the Arizona roster next season:
      Travis Boyd
      Jeff Chychrun
      Shayne Gostisbehere
      Clayton Keller
      Jack McBain
      Nick Ritchie
      Nick Schmaltz
      plus the moribund Andrew Ladd
      plus RFAs Lawson Crouse, Christian Fischer and Barrett Hayton

      The idea that Arizona would accept as the major assets in a Chychrun trade a kid who may not make the team next season and a 2024 first who won't hit the NHL until 2026 is counter-intuitive, to say the least.
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 3:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: Benzino204
      I think Schmidt is good in the room and his cap hit is a bit hard to move. Keep him next to Heinola for veteran-prospect relationship purposes and have Kovy in the minors for development sakes




      This is the thing with the Jets though. How many times have u heard “for development sakes.” They have so many players who are ready to play yet stilll stick them down in the minors to “develop” even though they are already NHL ready. This is happening right now with Gustafsson, Samberg, Heinola, and Kovacevic
      Apr. 12, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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      Quoting: YourWinnipegJets
      This is the thing with the Jets though. How many times have u heard “for development sakes.” They have so many players who are ready to play yet stilll stick them down in the minors to “develop” even though they are already NHL ready. This is happening right now with Gustafsson, Samberg, Heinola, and Kovacevic


      I'm not talking about the Paul Maurice Method of Development. Kovacevic looked good, but he played for games, didn't get a single point, and only played seven minutes a game; meanwhile Heinola and Samberg played in major tournaments like the WJHC, and in Samberg's case, college hockey tournaments where he won championships, and both are further along in their development. The Jets should have a future plan for Kovacevic and Chisholm, but they aren't quite ready. Plus a Schmidt trade may be easier next season with one less year left on his deal.
      Apr. 13, 2022 at 7:34 a.m.
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      I really like your take on this. Not sure if some of the trades would be accepted but solely looking at the Jets lineup, I really like it, especially the Crouse acquisition - finally someone realizes how much players like that are essential for the team to become a legitimate contender. Stanley, Schmidt and Dillon out is what we need.
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      Apr. 13, 2022 at 7:36 a.m.
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Next season, Arizona is going to have trouble putting 16 guys on the ice who have significant quality NHL experience. Here, you want them to trade away two of their starters for Ville Heinola, a 21-year-old who may not stick in the NHL next season even on the Coyotes. Moreover, I don't see Heinola and three high draft picks as "loads of value" since they are apparently asking for a top-6 forward and top-4 defenseman plus a first-round draft pick for Chychrun, whom they have no motivation to trade in the first place.


      You probably never seen Heinola play if you think of him like that. Btw analytically the best AHL dman this season but who tf cares right smile
      Apr. 13, 2022 at 7:40 a.m.
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Next season, Arizona is going to have trouble putting 16 guys on the ice who have significant quality NHL experience. Here, you want them to trade away two of their starters for Ville Heinola, a 21-year-old who may not stick in the NHL next season even on the Coyotes. Moreover, I don't see Heinola and three high draft picks as "loads of value" since they are apparently asking for a top-6 forward and top-4 defenseman plus a first-round draft pick for Chychrun, whom they have no motivation to trade in the first place.


      If you think Heinola wouldn't make the Yotes team next season you probably never seen him play. Let's ignore his age and size, solely focus on his play. Kid is gooddamn good. He is not going to be a top def guy, but that 1PP for sure
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