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Bedard or bust

Created by: Prime_Jimbo
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2022
Published: Apr. 25, 2022
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Description
Get Bedard
Trade JT and Garland/Boeser
Trade Ferland LTIR for assets (Vegas in this case)
Trade Dadanov with 50% retain for further assets either in the offseason or deadline
Consider Schenn deal at the deadline or extend if reasonable for bottom pair with Rathbone in the future
Don't ride Demko next year
Get passed one last year of cap retention for a better UFA class next year
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$803,333
2$750,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
2$950,000
2$800,000
2$750,000
6$6,250,000
2$950,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
1$800,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Miller, Cap Filler
1$2,625,000
Halak robbery, Cap Filler
1$1,250,000
Dermott, Cap Filler
1$750,000
Dadanov, Cap Filler
1$2,500,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T.
Additional Details:
Miller retain 50%
2.
VAN
  1. Grans, Helge
  2. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
3.
VAN
  1. 2022 5th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Poolman, Tucker
  2. 2022 6th round pick (VAN)
4.
VAN
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Dermott, Travis
Additional Details:
Dermott 50% retain
5.
VGK
  1. Ferland, Micheal
  2. 2022 4th round pick (VAN)
6.
VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
Additional Details:
Dadanov 50% retain
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
26$82,500,000$72,728,334$1,250,000$1,282,500$9,771,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
C, LW
UFA
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$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$950,000$950,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Miller, Cap Filler
$2,625,000$2,625,000
Halak robbery, Cap Filler
$1,250,000$1,250,000
Dermott, Cap Filler
$750,000$750,000
Dadanov, Cap Filler
$2,500,000$2,500,000

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Apr. 25, 2022 at 3:07 p.m.
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If you honestly want to tank for bedard you have to trade Demko. It will be very hard to finish bottom 5 with him in net
Apr. 25, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
If you honestly want to tank for bedard you have to trade Demko. It will be very hard to finish bottom 5 with him in net


Haha good point. He'll get a light year. See if Martin can actually hold up or if his three games and solid AHL season were legit. Plus if Schenn is moved, I'm not sure Demko can even manage that.
Apr. 25, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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Rangers make a counter offer of Libor Hajek for Quinn Huges with 50% retention.
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.
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would much rather move Boeser than Garland
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
Haha good point. He'll get a light year. See if Martin can actually hold up or if his three games and solid AHL season were legit. Plus if Schenn is moved, I'm not sure Demko can even manage that.


Think about this, the only real impact players you traded away were miller and garland. Let’s say Miller and garland combined are worth 10 wins! (Their not, maybe closer to 5 wins, but just for demonstration purposes we will pretend their worth 10). If you take away 10 wins (20 points) from this years Canucks teams, they are 7th last in the league, just behind Ottawa but ahead of Chicago. If you only take away 5 wins, then they would be 21st in the league, not even bottom 10!

If you’re going to tank you should go full tank otherwise you could throw away an entire year on getting the 12th overall pick and a handful of A- prospects while losing two of your top forwards
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
Rangers make a counter offer of Libor Hajek for Quinn Huges with 50% retention.


Actually they accepted smile
Apr. 25, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Think about this, the only real impact players you traded away were miller and garland. Let’s say Miller and garland combined are worth 10 wins! (Their not, maybe closer to 5 wins, but just for demonstration purposes we will pretend their worth 10). If you take away 10 wins (20 points) from this years Canucks teams, they are 7th last in the league, just behind Ottawa but ahead of Chicago. If you only take away 5 wins, then they would be 21st in the league, not even bottom 10!

If you’re going to tank you should go full tank otherwise you could throw away an entire year on getting the 12th overall pick and a handful of A- prospects while losing two of your top forwards


Miller single handedly carried this team at times this year. Really almost until closer to the end of the year and then Petey took off. I think the team above would be pretty bad. It wouldn't be too much different from the 2021 team who was awful.

Garland probably has lesser impact being traded as he doesn't play special teams.

The disparity in the league from top half to bottom half creates that gap of a 5 wins making little difference. I think Miller is worth 5+ wins alone.

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe they'd be the worst team with these moves. So they'd need lottery balls to land. But this team without Miller loses a lot of offense. Can Petey keep up PPG+ pace? Can Bo score 30+ again?

Even if they do, who replaces Miller's production? Miller assisted a ton of PP goals for Bo and ev goals for Petey.

If Schenn is moved as well, Demko might be on LTIR from getting obliterated from shots on net.

Maybe you also have to move Boeser and then you ask truly where the offense would come from and bottom 5 here we come.
Apr. 25, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.
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would much rather move Boeser than Garland


I don't disagree. I'm torn on both. I think Boeser at 6.25 and under long term is worth it I worry that Garland doesn't get any special teams time though that could change if Miller were moved. But I believe Boeser is the better player.
Apr. 25, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
Actually they accepted smile


I guess you live in an alternate reality since JT still plays for the canucks.
Apr. 25, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
I guess you live in an alternate reality since JT still plays for the canucks.


I suppose you misunderstood what acGM means.
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
Rangers make a counter offer of Libor Hajek for Quinn Huges with 50% retention.


Lol you’re such a joke. You complain about EVERYTHING. The Canucks should not do this deal because 1) Kakko sucks, he’s a bust, 2) Lundkvist is just mediocre producing mediocre numbers in the AHL 3) your 2023 first isn’t something super precious either. You’ll see any trade made to New York and complain. Your counter offer just shows how immature and whiny you are. This trade is not unreasonable for New York in the slightest
Apr. 25, 2022 at 6:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
I suppose you misunderstood what acGM means.

He’s a troll. He’s cried about every single JT Miller trade. You could make an ACGM sending Miller to New York for free and he will still find a reason to complain
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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Lol you’re such a joke. You complain about EVERYTHING. The Canucks should not do this deal because 1) Kakko sucks, he’s a bust, 2) Lundkvist is just mediocre producing mediocre numbers in the AHL 3) your 2023 first isn’t something super precious either. You’ll see any trade made to New York and complain. Your counter offer just shows how immature and whiny you are. This trade is not unreasonable for New York in the slightest


Your post shows just how jealous you are of the Rangers and their players Mr Troll. Keep up the good work.
Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:08 p.m.
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He’s a troll. He’s cried about every single JT Miller trade. You could make an ACGM sending Miller to New York for free and he will still find a reason to complain


Lol oh for sure.
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
Your post shows just how jealous you are of the Rangers and their players Mr Troll. Keep up the good work.


Lol your counterpoint was way worse. That's obvious.

Rangers wouldn't pass that up. Lundkvist won't crack their top 4/5 RHD. Kakko is young and has potential but Miller is ppg and can play anywhere. Laf and Miller can round out the top 6 or even elevate the third line significantly with Laf.

Can't blame you for liking your team's talent but it's a good deal for NYR no matter how you try and spin it.
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:35 p.m.
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Your post shows just how jealous you are of the Rangers and their players Mr Troll. Keep up the good work.

Oh yes you caught me! I’m soooooooop jealous of your team. Man I totally wish we had a 2nd overall pick who has less points than Loui Eriksson this season. I just love busts! I’m also so jealous of your 4RD on your team. I wish the Canucks had somebody of his mediocrity on the team. Lol keep whining I guess
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:50 p.m.
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Oh yes you caught me! I’m soooooooop jealous of your team. Man I totally wish we had a 2nd overall pick who has less points than Loui Eriksson this season. I just love busts! I’m also so jealous of your 4RD on your team. I wish the Canucks had somebody of his mediocrity on the team. Lol keep whining I guess


Yeah, you're not jealous of a 108 point team in the payoffs at all. LOL. Grow up Troll.
Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:51 p.m.
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Lol your counterpoint was way worse. That's obvious.

Rangers wouldn't pass that up. Lundkvist won't crack their top 4/5 RHD. Kakko is young and has potential but Miller is ppg and can play anywhere. Laf and Miller can round out the top 6 or even elevate the third line significantly with Laf.

Can't blame you for liking your team's talent but it's a good deal for NYR no matter how you try and spin it.


You're 100% wrong. 1 year of JT Miller isn;t worth giving up Kakko and Lundqvist. Only a short sighted fool would make that trade. If JT is so good....SIGN HIM.
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
Yeah, you're not jealous of a 108 point team in the payoffs at all. LOL. Grow up Troll.


How is team placement relevant when discussing the value of this trade? Lol if you’re gonna make an argument,at least make it relevant
Apr. 25, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
How is team placement relevant when discussing the value of this trade? Lol if you’re gonna make an argument,at least make it relevant


My argument was YOUR JEALOUSY OF THE RANGERS AND THEIR PLAYERS. You got to read trollman.
Apr. 25, 2022 at 8:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
How is team placement relevant when discussing the value of this trade? Lol if you’re gonna make an argument,at least make it relevant


Relevancy is extremely difficult for them, because every Rangers prospect is the second coming of Gretzky or Bobby Orr, and how dare you even *think* of besmirching their honor by trying to create a fake trade for them???!?!?! Nevermind that Nils Lundkvist is never going to crack the lineup ahead of Fox/Trouba/Schneider, so he's just going to turn into a pumpkin in Hartford. Nevermind that Kakko has less points in his 3-year career than JTM has -assists- this season. And god forbid you give up that 2023 1st, which will probably be in the late 20s once you add JT Miller to that offense. And seriously, how dare you insult him by only retaining 50% on that Miller contract!!!!
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 8:19 p.m.
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Relevancy is extremely difficult for them, because every Rangers prospect is the second coming of Gretzky or Bobby Orr, and how dare you even *think* of besmirching their honor by trying to create a fake trade for them???!?!?! Nevermind that Nils Lundkvist is never going to crack the lineup ahead of Fox/Trouba/Schneider, so he's just going to turn into a pumpkin in Hartford. Nevermind that Kakko has less points in his 3-year career than JTM has -assists- this season. And god forbid you give up that 2023 1st, which will probably be in the late 20s once you add JT Miller to that offense. And seriously, how dare you insult him by only retaining 50% on that Miller contract!!!!


Jt Miller is a plug. Doesn’t even have 100 points smh my head. The Canucks should be paying the Rangers to take his awful contract off the books 🙄
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
My argument was YOUR JEALOUSY OF THE RANGERS AND THEIR PLAYERS. You got to read trollman.


? Ok but again, how does that relate to this ACGM. Jeez bro…
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Apr. 25, 2022 at 8:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
You're 100% wrong. 1 year of JT Miller isn;t worth giving up Kakko and Lundqvist. Only a short sighted fool would make that trade. If JT is so good....SIGN HIM.


real quick question: where is Lundkvist playing if your RD depth chart is locked in to Fox/Trouba/Schneider through at least 2024?
Apr. 25, 2022 at 8:39 p.m.
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? Ok but again, how does that relate to this ACGM. Jeez bro…


It relates to you chiming in, as usual. Can't stop thinking about the rangers, can you?
 
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