Detroit doesn't consider this

Neither team does.

That is very true.

Why not just ask for Raymond and their first at the same time...........

I disagree. MIN does this in a heartbeat. You give up anything for a future Lidstrom, esp if they aren't asking for Boldy and Rossi.

This is just stupid. I.mean Seider is a building block and Dumba is a pending UFA. So it comes down to a cost controlled RHD, which has played very well for one year of Dumba and Fiala.

This is all sorts of bad for Wings.

Agreed. IMO Seider and Raymond should be untouchable

It's the value disparity and the pieces involved specifically that makes Minnesota turn it down. Not the fact it's Seider, who I agree is phenomenal and would love to get my hands on... but I recognize it would never happen anyway. But that's the point.

As much as I like Seider, his value is concurrently commensurate to Fiala's. They're basically a wash. Right now, specifically. Probably not in the future, or maybe even a year from now. But for now, it is. If we were to sit here and look at what Seider's value would be from a hypothetical standpoint if he were available, which again, he isn't.

So how is Detroit walking away with both Dumba and a high 2nd (40th ova) for Walman and a 4th? That is decidedly tilted in their favor, not Minnesota's. When Dumba carries the far, far, greater value between the two players and by strict pick value alone. Explain that to me? Because the Wild are losing that part of the trade, hands down... easily.

Seider is great, really, but how in hell is giving up a PPG 80+ point winger, a top 4 defenseman, and a 2nd for basically 1 player... even if it's Seider... worth it when the rest is simply quantity filler and not quality?

Furthermore, Walman does nothing for us when we already have Middleton to resign, who's better, and are fully stocked at LD already. Overflowing in point of fact. So aside from Seider, what exactly are we gaining from this?

Because it's seems like we're giving up far more than we gained. Cause all I see is the Wild giving up 3 great pieces and gaining just one.