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My response to the Kakko trades

Created by: Racki
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2022
Published: May 27, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Los Angeles Kings
Team Explanation
Kakko is not worth Vilardi AND Turcotte or Kaliyev alone.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Anderson, Michael3$2,000,000
Andersson, Lias2$800,000
Durzi, Sean2$1,750,000
Grundström, Carl2$1,000,000
Kempe, Adrian6$5,000,000
Lemieux, Brendan4$1,750,000
Moverare, Jacob2$800,000
Vilardi, Gabriel2$900,000
Kakko, Kaapo3$4,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Edler, Alexander1$2,000,000
Deslauriers, Nicolas2$1,200,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Kakko, Kaapo$4,200,000
2023 2nd round pick
Trades
1.
LAK
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. Grans, Helge
  3. Walker, Sean
  4. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
Buyouts
  • Dion Phaneuf: $1,062,500
Termination Fees
  • Mike Richards: $900,000
Buried
  • Austin Wagner: $8,333 ($1,133,333)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,904,167$637,500$3,412,500$595,833

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Kempe, Adrian
$5,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
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Kopitar, Anze
$10,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Kaliyev, Arthur
$894,167
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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Moore, Trevor
$1,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Danault, Phillip
$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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Arvidsson, Viktor
$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Iafallo, Alex
$4,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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Byfield, Quinton
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
Kakko, Kaapo
$4,200,000
RW
RFA
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Lemieux, Brendan
$1,750,000
LW, RW
RFA
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Lizotte, Blake
$1,675,000
C
RFA - 2
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$1,200,000
RW, LW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Anderson, Michael
$2,000,000
LD
RFA
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Doughty, Drew
$11,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Quick, Jonathan
$5,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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Chychrun, Jakob
$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Roy, Matt
$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Petersen, Cal
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Edler, Alexander
$2,000,000
LD
UFA
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Durzi, Sean
$1,750,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Kupari, Rasmus
$863,333
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Grundström, Carl
$1,000,000
LW
RFA
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Björnfot, Tobias
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kakko, K.
Kopitar, A.
Kaliyev, A.
Kempe, A.
Doughty, D.
Power Play 2
Moore, T.
Danault, P.
Arvidsson, V.
Byfield, Q.
Chychrun, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Danault, P.
Iafallo, A.
Anderson, M.
Doughty, D.
Penalty Kill 2
Lizotte, B.
Moore, T.
Edler, A.
Roy, M.

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May 27 at 7:02 p.m.
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May 27 at 7:02 p.m.
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I have been preaching the offersheet on Kakko for quite a while .
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May 27 at 7:06 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
I have been preaching the offersheet on Kakko for quite a while .


If Blake gives up any of Vilardi, Turcotte, or Kaliyev without attempting to O/S Kakko first, I will be pretty mad. Especially if Chychrun or a LD of that caliber isn't acquired first.
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May 27 at 7:06 p.m.
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I agree Kakko should be offer sheeted, but the Kings have so many prospects that I don't want them to open that can of worms.
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May 27 at 7:15 p.m.
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I agree Kakko should be offer sheeted, but the Kings have so many prospects that I don't want them to open that can of worms.


Kings forward prospects haven’t really done much. Byfield isn’t a good player at the moment Turcotte has been injured and hasn’t made a big jump. Vilardi Probably won’t be much of an impactful NHL player either.
May 27 at 7:16 p.m.
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This is a good lineup
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May 27 at 7:17 p.m.
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well if you OF for anything less than 6m you wont get him.
May 27 at 7:17 p.m.
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Kings forward prospects haven’t really done much. Byfield isn’t a good player at the moment Turcotte has been injured and hasn’t made a big jump. Vilardi Probably won’t be much of an impactful NHL player either.


That's kind of a strange statement considering all of them are barely over 20 years old except for Byfield who is barely 19...
May 27 at 7:17 p.m.
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Quoting: drambui
well if you OF for anything less than 6m you wont get him.


How's that?
May 27 at 7:20 p.m.
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How's that?


well, if the rangers dont get a first round pick back, they will match any OS, no matter how bad it screws their cap. ist just too much bad asset management to let them go for anything less. rangers fans feels the same you do about kaliev, you would not let him go if someone game him a 4 million deal.
May 27 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabres923
Kings forward prospects haven’t really done much. Byfield isn’t a good player at the moment Turcotte has been injured and hasn’t made a big jump. Vilardi Probably won’t be much of an impactful NHL player either.


Arguably neither has Kakko, it's an investment in what you project the player to be like, similar to what the Hurricanes did to get Kotkaniemi.
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May 27 at 7:22 p.m.
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Arguably neither has Kakko, it's an investment in what you project the player to be like, similar to what the Hurricanes did to get Kotkaniemi.


Yeah Kakko is not a good player.
May 27 at 7:23 p.m.
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That's kind of a strange statement considering all of them are barely over 20 years old except for Byfield who is barely 19...


Byfield will be fine. It’s Turcotte who the kings should have worries about.
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May 27 at 7:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabres923
Byfield will be fine. It’s Turcotte who the kings should have worries about.


I was uninformed about the current status of LA Kings prospects until you showed up. Thank you
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May 27 at 7:28 p.m.
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well, if the rangers dont get a first round pick back, they will match any OS, no matter how bad it screws their cap. ist just too much bad asset management to let them go for anything less. rangers fans feels the same you do about kaliev, you would not let him go if someone game him a 4 million deal.


Not if you're over the cap...

See here: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3287217
May 27 at 7:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabres923
Yeah Kakko is not a good player.




After seeing Bunting be a calder nominee at 26, and Kempe finally breaking out at 25, we have to be patient. Sometimes guys need to figure it out, very few players just get it and stick it out long term. The floors on Kaliyev, Byfield, Vilardi, Kupari, and even Turcotte look safe enough that they will at the very least hold NHLer value.
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May 27 at 7:41 p.m.
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Really nice job. Better than my last two Kings constructions.
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May 27 at 7:45 p.m.
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Really nice job. Better than my last two Kings constructions.


I'm all for the Buffalo and Petersen trade, even if we only get a 2nd and not a first.
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May 27 at 8:01 p.m.
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Not if you're over the cap...

See here: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3287217


its some nice work, but they could probably trade players like chytil, reave and goodrow if needed, maybe get a 2c closer to 5 mil. who knows really. i think they will valie keeping their second overall pick over those players. yes ot would screw them, but they will match nonetheless.
May 27 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: drambui
its some nice work, but they could probably trade players like chytil, reave and goodrow if needed, maybe get a 2c closer to 5 mil. who knows really. i think they will valie keeping their second overall pick over those players. yes ot would screw them, but they will match nonetheless.


I just don't see them weakening their team just to keep unproven Kakko.
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May 28 at 9:24 a.m.
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I just don't see them weakening their team just to keep unproven Kakko.


Just a thought that came to mind, as a CHI fan which maybe gives me some bias. But It's kinda funny how people hold Kakko up as this untapped massive talent and then talk about Dach like he is a bust, when Dach has quite obviously had the better start to his career through a lot more adversity.
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