Pass on Reaves - don't need a pylon who can't skate, shoot or pass regardless of whether he's a big tough guy. Kept hearing how valuable he is to the rangers so surprised to see him in so many trades.

Would be the ultimate captain move to leave at the deadline for a package of players and picks only to have an extension in place. Wings accept if that's the case.

For cap purposes only. Otherwise would love to keep him.

This does nothing for Detroit. We've got some great D talent coming up the pipeline in the next 1-2 yrs, so Lundkvist and Robertson do nothing for us. Trivigno doesn't move the needle.

IMO, Larkin is about as untouchable as they come. Hometown kid, captain, and nearly PPG guy while still good at playing a 200' game. Yet you've offered not a single piece that makes Yzerman blink.

I'm not sure if this can be done (or has ever been done) but I wonder if Larkin and the Wings agreed on an extension during the season, could he be traded at the deadline still? Technically the extension does not go into effect until July 1, so would he still be considered a UFA in February? If that's the case, yeah the Wings should 100% do this. And the Rangers too.

Well since you included Nemeth it's a Yes. Seriously, Larkin will likely sign a long term deal in July. I don't think he can officially sign an extension until July 13.

See my response to rednwhite. If Larkin and the Wings agree on an extension and it's still legal for him to be traded (aka he's still considered a UFA in February), I don't see why the Wings don't do this.

He's not going anywhere. Expect an 8 year deal this summer. Hoping it comes in under 9 mil per year. 8 x 8.5 seems fair.

Sounds good to me. 👍

See my response to rednwhite. If Larkin and the Wings agree on an extension and it's still legal for him to be traded (aka he's still considered a UFA in February), I don't see why the Wings don't do this. I'm not sure if that's allowed, but if it is, no way Detroit passes on this when they have him guaranteed coming back the following season. Considering that they're not playoff bound next season, and would get a leg up in the Bedard/Michkov sweepstakes by taking Larkin out temporarily from February to April... they definitely make this deal. Even if they have to have Nemeth aka garbage can on ice for a year.

man half the people here dont read what you are writing. its 100 % legal and have happened in the past. not with supterstar talent but more older players ( keith tkachuk was one, plekanec to some extent).

edit to be clear : they can agree to an extension but not sign it until he becomes ufa on july first.

If Larkin and the Wings agree to an extension the extension follows him to NY after the trade

Thank you!! They literally just had to scroll like one or two messages lmao.

And thanks for letting me know - I had never heard a case like this but think it could be a really unique opportunity for both teams.

edited my message above : they can agree to an extenstion but he cant sign it until july first. so techinly he could change his mind and you lose him.

Ohh really? I thought that was only if the Wings traded him after July 1 (sign and trade).

Ahh gotcha, that makes sense. I'd think he would commit to Detroit though. Seems like he cares a lot about the franchise and he's a hometown guy.

Wings could do this but every year fans of a team think someone will do this and the player never resigns. Think about foligno with the leafs. Would be extremely dangerous for the red wings to make this move, as no matter what handshake agreement they have (that larkin would be stupid to make) he could always just test FA and see if he gets something better

True. I'd think it would be different here though, since Larkin is captain and hometown guy and seems happy in Detroit. Could go on a quick run with the Rangers and get right back to it.

Foligno choosing not to go back to CBJ I think is because of the mass exodus from Columbus the past few years. I think Larkin is very likely to return to Detroit but I agree it's risky.

Yea definitely don't think its impossible to happen, but if I was Yzerman no matter what discussions I had behind the scenes I would only trade Larkin if the return is like he wouldn't be coming back. I don't think Lundkvist + late 1st + a bunch of mediocre stuff would fit that.

No. That becomes his new contract and follows him through trades. He wouldn’t become a UFA because he has a new SPC. FA’s lack a SPC.

Another thing people don't do much of here is take into account the other teams needs. They find a player they like then offer up players that aren't needed and scraps.

true, but a situation where larkin says in advance he would not sign with the team he is traded to would lower his value for sure. and i agree they could get a better offer that would satisfy more the teams needs, but i think value wise it is close though. (as a pure rental for anyone).

and i think lundkist first and second is something the wings would be interested too.

I don't think it is actually allowed but it would have to be a handshake agreement that is under the table.

Seeing as how Larkin would be a rental, the Rangers wouldn't be giving up for example Kakko or Lafreniere. Two D prospects, one winger prospect, a 1st and a 2nd should be more than enough for a rental.

Lundkvist is an RHD and Detroit doesn't need any more RHDs. Robertson projects somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd pair and Detroit at least 2 LHD prospects that are better. Now Trivigno had a good senior year but he has been draft eligible since 2017 and hasn't been drafted. Nemeth is a cap dump. That 1st more than likely will be in the 30s making it a lot more like a 2nd. A simple glance at Detroit's roster and reserve list would show that Lundkvist isn't really needed and he is only player with any real value in this offer. So another team could and would beat that offer if Larkin was put on the trading block.