If the Wild are better off trading Olofsson for addition picks/futures, why trade for him in the first place?

Minnesota declines. They aren't trading Marcus foligno. They wouldn't trade their heart and soul leader, and cheaper player for worse one also. But foligno isn't available, so Minnesota declines from the beginning

How about you trade oloffson, then add those picks and a 1st

You guys do remember minny has zero cap and foligno's career high is 42 points with his next highest being 26.... Guy isnt worth a first or really even olofsson haha

Yet buffalo fans like yourself keep wanting foligno. The point is foligno isn't available. No, olofsson isn't better than foligno, nor is olofsson worth what he's making or what he will want

You do realize that foligno finished top 10 in selke voting like every year and foligno is on a bargain of a contract…. Go sign victor rask and quit annoying wild fans

Cool. He also is very strong defensively and even finished 9th in Selke voting this year. Add in his leadership and you can see why we don't want to trade him. He is very much worth his contract. Look up the 5 on 5 stats for the GREEF line (Greenway, Erksson Ek, and Foligno) if you want a better understanding.

I think you're very wrong here.
Foligno is tough because he value to his team is higher than his trade value. Same reason buffalo would give up olofsson and picks for him, because he is an engine on a team that is universally liked.

However olofsson is good and his shot is in the top 5% of the league and he is worth is tarde value and future contract.

So you can not want the trade cause I wouldn't either but I will.not be accepting olofsson slander on this website.

Asplund got selke votes, no one is comparing him to messier in value hahahaha. Keep him then, likely will lead to you losing younger better players. Him and deslauries sure looked effective against st louis lol

You are sure showing you know nothing about Marcus foligno and looking ignorant. Spouting Alot of bs because you are told no. Marcus foligno isn't making wild lose any younger players, so you can keep your victor o who Buffalo fans are all trying to get rid of.

Yeah just will suck when boldy, rossi, addison are all up. I know lots about the "intagibles" foligno brings. Just really shows how unimportant they are when it cant get them past the 1st round. Vic O put up 7 more points in the current year playing with an injured wrist for 40 plus games. I guess you have similar players to VO like Fiala, oh wait....

Your bs is speaking loud and clear. Keep enjoying your cheap owner and losing season after losing season. Such ignorant because your denied in foligno. Yop, we will enjoy our team leadership and one of the best 3rd lines in the NHL.. your bs , and jealousy is shinning through in your comments along with soreness. You will never ever have kaprizov, Zuccarello, boldy, Dominant 3rd line, etc....

Your lack of education on foligno or hockey shows when you argue points

I am not the OP and dont want foligno, both the wild and sabres will have same cap structure next few years, ours cause of our idiot owner and yours cause of your idiot front office. Team leadership only works if you win lol and I am afraid the wild's window is closed already so holding on to 30+ year olds whos value (due to intangibles" instead of trading them for over market value is a dumb move.

You are acting as if the wild are the lightning, like what success have those three youve mentioned had lol

Your acting as if your team has even sniffed the playoffs, or had success in it which the wild during the playoffs had.

Then keep your player dude. Obviously you want foligno otherwise you wouldn't be baiting so hard and trying to oversell the value of victor o and 2nd round pick for Marcus foligno. No dude , Buffalo fans were using victor o as a cap dump. You are talking about dude who almost makes same money as fiala and also needs to get paid? Good one, while foligno is everything to the wild. Guess what, players like foligno have more value around NHL, nhl GM's, so your argument doesn't mean much.

Wild's window isn't closing no matter what you think. Wild have a top 3 prospect pool, their draft picks, development of draft picks, most of their roster signed through the cap hell. Oh yeah kaprizov. Zuccarello is a free agent in like 1-2 also, so Minnesota has money. Minnesota d is still one of the best. Anything more to your weak argument?

Olofsson is replacement level player without his shot. And since we're pulling out counting stats with no context:

Foligno career high in goals: 23
Olofsson career high in goals: 20

Such a stupid thing tho say, Connor mcdavid is a replacement level player without his skating, vision, intelligence, hands etc. Like you dont just take away a players best aspects lol. Olofssons goals per game 0.29, folignos 0.16. Nearly double the output. and one is younger.

You see, my argument was never that Olofsson wasn't a better goalscorer. It was that his only trait worth a damn is his shot. Comparing that argument to Connor McDavid in any compacity is laughable.

Nothing he does sets him above anyone. He doesn't drive play, he doesn't have a good two-way impact, he isn't physical, he doesn't create his own opportunities at high level. The only thing that sets him apart from a replacement level player, the only truly redeemable trait he has is his shooting talent. That's it. He's very average

Olofsson also got 67% offensive zone starts whereas Foligno had just 43%. Role matters and Foligno was playing in a shutdown role all year and still putting up those numbers.

Also, we won't be losing Boldy, Rossi or Addison because of Foligno. Addison will be cheap to re-sign next offseason since he has 18 games to his name so far. Rossi's contract doesn't expire until we're out of cap hell (half the reason he only played 2 games this year was to get his ELC to slide). Boldy will likely get bridged this offseason to avoid any issues if he has a big year next season. There's zero reason to believe that any of these 3 will be cap casualties due to Foligno.

I just thought it would be cool to have the brothers play together. Best 3rd line in hockey. From a stats perspective the Olofsson + 2nd pick is overpay for Foligno. Foligno will be lucky to have the same numbers next year. The A on his sweater and his physical game is what sets him apart from Olofsson. The wild really dont have anyone else like Foligno so I get that they dont want to trade him.

Yes it is ridiculous how you take the players best trait away when assessing him... What is folignos? 5 "lets go boys" in the locker room per game? the object of the game is to score goals so typically when a guy is twice as good as the next, more value is provided.

Ok so substitute them with dumba, fiala, hartman. Olofsson also injured for 40 games and didnt score for 4 months because of it and still outproduced him. Keep your guys best player to ever dawn the jersey, I didnt want him in the first place

If you're argument is goals, then let's see Olofsson score more than 10 at 5v5, where 90% of hickey is played. His value in his shot that he needs the PP to convert on because with the other team down a man, it's easier for him to actually get into dangerous areas.

If he provided more value than a shot, he wouldn't be mid. Because believe it or not, there's more to goals than just shooting talent. If there wasn't, he'd actually convert more. 20 career 5v5 goals in 188 career games is not impressive at all, especially for a guy with such a good shot. And say what you want about his team being bad, he played almost basically all his hockey with Jack Eichel in 19-20, Olofsson's most productive year.

Again, he doesn't drive play, he doesn't use his shot effectively enough, especially when the teams are even manned, he doemst scare you with elite speed or hands, he doesn't have a two game, he doesmt kill penalties, he isn't a physical player at all, he's disciplined but doesn't draw many penatlies, he doesn't even provide value from being a center or notable leader OR even by having a steal of a contract. Or even being that young. Theoretically, he is already in his prime. Like, what does he provide outside of "damn, he can really fire that thing"?

Honestly, I'm asking.

Im willing to put my house on him producing 60 points this upcoming season barring injury. Yes he is great on the powerplay, shame that doesnt matter even though two of the top powerplays in the league are now in the cup finals. Past year he was much better 5 on 5 with out jack and playing through wrist injury was best thing for him as he wasnt able to rely on his shot as much. I am not arguing he is some allstar or anything, im arguing hes more valuable than foligno. And yes hes older but also was a 7th round pick who wasnt given every chance in the world to make it in the first place. Anyways, I like both foligno and olofsson, no problems with either, just irks me when everyone says foligno is way better and its not close, sure keep him then I really dont care