Quoting: dmacias
Yea I'm aware Evolving Wild thinks Wahlstrom is good. Jfresh's charts disagree, and Dom at the Athletic is especially low on him. Cherry picking the one model from one season that supports your view wahlstrom isn't exactly an effective argument, especially the one that suggests Nichushkin is a superior player to Draisaitl. "Ignoring the facts" would be exactly what you're doing. Beyond that, YOU didn't make their model, so not sure why you're suggesting its gospel, especially when plenty of others disagree, any sane person's eye test disagrees, Barry Trotz disagrees, and his 13 goals in 73 games this year disagree. Again, I do not doubt that Wahlstrom COULD be a top-6 scoring winger elsewhere, but do not see it here whatsoever. He does not skate anywhere close to good enough to play with Barzal, and putting a pure sniper with a goal-scoring center like Nelson is not a solution either.
Also again, like I am a big Lambert guy too, Geekie was just the name I used to exemplify the quality of player that will likely be available at 13. I wasn't debating the Girard trade with you anyway, I was just expanding on the point that this offseason would be, uh, poor to put it mildly. Also no way Dobson takes 5.25 for 8 years, you get that cap hit for at most 6 years. Lankinen is definitely not who I'd turn to at backup either.
Jfresh charts do not disagree, can you prove that? Hockey viz is also high on wahlstrom. Most analytics platforms show that Wahlstrom has done well over the past two seasons despite being buried by his coach. . Evolving Hockey is arguably the most accurate measure of a players impact and is one of the better analytics platforms out there, that's not cherry picking. Cherry picking would be you using "13 goals in 73 games" without using context. Wahlstrom ranked 3rd among all islanders forwards in goal per 60 min, he was a more productive goal scorer than 9 isles regulars despite constantly being buried.
Of course Barry Trotz disagrees, he's tried to bury and ruin the careers of plenty of young skilled forwards, including Filip Forsberg, burakovsky, vrana, radulov. He might be the worst coach in the NHL at handling young forwards development.
Dom's cards have to the be the worst representation of a players impact, they do a terrible job at isolating a players impact from his teammates, which is why you see Tyson Barries market value at over 4 mill depsite being a replacement level defenseman accumulating points by play with Mcdavid/Draisaitl.