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Realistic Offseason

Created by: koremoo
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 15, 2022
Published: Jun. 16, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,700,000
2$1,800,000
2$750,000
1$750,000
2$750,000
3$2,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane
3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. Stranges, Antonio
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
2.
MTL
  1. 2022 4th round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
3.
MTL
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. Weber, Shea
    2. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
    4.
    MTL
    1. Johnson, Erik
    2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
    Additional Details:
    2023 1st round pick (COL) is top 20 protected
    COL
    1. Dvorak, Christian ($1,450,000 retained)
    5.
    MTL
    1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
    2. 2022 6th round pick (EDM)
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    Logo of the MTL
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    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the MTL
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    2023
    Logo of the MTL
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    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the MTL
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    Logo of the CGY
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$76,159,999$1,132,500$1,357,500$6,340,001
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Wright, Shane
    $925,000$925,000
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $762,500$762,500
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,700,000$2,700,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    $3,333,333$3,333,333
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Walker, Schultz, Shattenkirk come to mind, potentially even Liljegren or Lundkvist.

    Just want to avoid adding another 35+ year old D with term. There's already enough burden in Suter and we're not looking to build another Sharks.


    That's fair, although I wouldn't necessarily consider those guys that much better considering their age. Shattenkrik is the only interesting one imo
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: arab05
    Jake Allen is a cap dump. Expect to lose an asset to move his contract.


    allen is a top 5 backup making a fair salary imo
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: koremoo
    That's fair, although I wouldn't necessarily consider those guys that much better considering their age. Shattenkrik is the only interesting one imo


    Oh, Petry is certainly better than them, I ain't questioning that. Monetary and age wise I just don't see fit.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: koremoo
    ?


    In order to trade Jake "Cap Dump" Allen you will have to give up an asset. There isnt a team in the league that is going to give you anything for him.

    Understand?
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.
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    Quoting: koremoo
    He could be a good defensive centerman for the Avs. It could take pressure away from other lines to shut down other top lines, especially in the playoffs.


    dvorak sucks defensivly. id be a lot more interested in evans but not at the same price.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
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    Quoting: arab05
    In order to trade Jake "Cap Dump" Allen you will have to give up an asset. There isnt a team in the league that is going to give you anything for him.

    Understand?


    He's getting paid less than 3 million dollars and is a proven 1B Starter. Almost ANY team would be willing to acquire him. Sure, his more than 4 million dollar contract could've been considered a cap dump, but that contract is now in the past.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
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    Quoting: arab05
    In order to trade Jake "Cap Dump" Allen you will have to give up an asset. There isnt a team in the league that is going to give you anything for him.

    Understand?


    That's straight up not true. Sure, MTL would probably need to retain salary but he's still a reliable tandem-goalie. Will net them a 3rd rounder easily, possibly even more than that.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:27 a.m.
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    Oh, Petry is certainly better than them, I ain't questioning that. Monetary and age wise I just don't see fit.


    That makes sense. I just think Petry could push the Stars into a contending position. That might make his age worth it.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    allen is a top 5 backup making a fair salary imo


    Why on earth would anyone want to trade him if he is a top 5 back up on a good contract?
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    That's straight up not true. Sure, MTL would probably need to retain salary but he's still a reliable tandem-goalie. Will net them a 3rd rounder easily, possibly even more than that.


    For sure if they retain they will for sure be able to get a return for him. But at full cost they wont.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.
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    That makes sense. I just think Petry could push the Stars into a contending position. That might make his age worth it.


    I don't see it, unfortunately. We weren't a contender with Klingberg and I wouldn't call Petry better than him.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: arab05
    Why on earth would anyone want to trade him if he is a top 5 back up on a good contract?


    not sure the habs want to trade him but if they did he's too old for their core so maybe the want someone else. i wouldn't say he's on a good contract, just a fair contract.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    dvorak sucks defensivly. id be a lot more interested in evans but not at the same price.


    Dvorak is actually not as bad as you think. He just looked really bad under Ducharme (as did everybody lol). His defensive game is very strong and his faceoffs are elite. I would probably keep him if we didn't have 4 young centermen and we were going through a rebuild.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    What if we throw in Calgary's 1st and a 3rd and you throw in Dumba and remove the 4th?


    No. Minnesota isn't trading dumba. Nor do we want drouin. Guerin says no.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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    For sure if they retain they will for sure be able to get a return for him. But at full cost they wont.


    I seriously doubt that. Even at full cost they'll receive something for him, at $2,85M he's still not overpaid. It's pretty much what a goalie of his caliber would receive from free agency.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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    Quoting: arab05
    Why on earth would anyone want to trade him if he is a top 5 back up on a good contract?


    Because the Habs aren't looking to contend. Kind of in the same boat as Dvorak.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: koremoo
    Dvorak is actually not as bad as you think. He just looked really bad under Ducharme (as did everybody lol). His defensive game is very strong and his faceoffs are elite. I would probably keep him if we didn't have 4 young centermen and we were going through a rebuild.


    not really interested. evans is more interesting imo but not for the same price obviously.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: koremoo
    I think this actually does work because Drouin at this price is a very low-risk potential replacement for Fiala. Obviously, Drouin is nowhere near Fiala's level but he might be an affordable player to slot into the top 6.


    Drouin abandoned his team and has been injury prone. He also doesn't play a two way game which led to fiala getting benched numerous times and dean Evason getting mad at him. A 4th round pick, even though not mad, Guerin wouldn't bring in drouin
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I don't see it, unfortunately. We weren't a contender with Klingberg and I wouldn't call Petry better than him.


    That's true, but I think he keeps you in a position where that next piece puts you in that position. The other guys probably take you out of that limbo zone where the team isn't really a close to contending.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    not really interested. evans is more interesting imo but not for the same price obviously.


    Fair, but I don't think Evans is available.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wildnochance
    Drouin abandoned his team and has been injury prone. He also doesn't play a two way game which led to fiala getting benched numerous times and dean Evason getting mad at him. A 4th round pick, even though not mad, Guerin wouldn't bring in drouin


    Fair, although I wouldn't say Drouin abandoned his team necessarily. That's kind of unfair.
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Dumba is the better player and plays a more valuable position. It also allows us to move Petry without a downgrade at that position.


    I’d say MN accepts that.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: IcemanJoe
    I’d say MN accepts that.


    With all due respect, Guerin won't. They hate player's like drouin. Unless dumba negotiations go wrong, dumba won't get traded. Plus people are forgetting dumba can block trades
    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: koremoo
    I agree with you, but I'm not sure if trading the pick is worth it for a team that is rebuilding. I just don't see Dumba in the team's long-term plans. I'd rather keep the pick and save that money to use elsewhere (such as a Caufield extension next summer).


    Dumba is 27 and if willing to extend in Montreal actually fits quite well with the rebuild (at least better than Petry as he is 7 years younger)

    Quoting: Wildnochance
    With all due respect, Guerin won't. They hate player's like drouin. Unless dumba negotiations go wrong, dumba won't get traded. Plus people are forgetting dumba can block trades


    He can't block trades, he only has a 10 team no trade list and would have had to submit it already (I believe once the contract was signed or maybe once a year on June 15th. I can't remember what the criteria is lol). The question is who does he have on his 10 team NT list, I don't think Montreal or any Canadian team would be (unless he specifically doesn't like the team) because he is Canadian.
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    Jun. 16, 2022 at 10:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Dumba is 27 and if willing to extend in Montreal actually fits quite well with the rebuild (at least better than Petry as he is 7 years younger)



    He can't block trades, he only has a 10 team no trade list and would have had to submit it already (I believe once the contract was signed or maybe once a year on June 15th. I can't remember what the criteria is lol). The question is who does he have on his 10 team NT list, I don't think Montreal or any Canadian team would be (unless he specifically doesn't like the team) because he is Canadian.


    The Habs have a logjam on the backend and would probably rather let their prospects prove themselves.
     
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