You could argue that deal isn’t fair to NYI without retention or the pick. Isles decline.

You can’t trade an injured defenseman and a middle six winger for a guy who can theoretically play top 6 minutes, a starting tendy with salary retained and a 2nd round pick!!!

Yeah, I felt that way with it too honestly -- feels like an overpay. I wonder if COL would have interest without some pick added though. Would be interested to hear from NYI and COL fans on just a 2 for 2 swap.

edit: not a fan of either team -- NSH fan -- so I'm sure others have more insight into these players

Sakic has already swindled Lou once. I don’t even want to trade for Girard for that reason lol. He’s an inferior puck mover to Toews and he’s small. Couple that worth his reasonable injury and this package isn’t enough for the isles without the pick or retention on Varly.

I think the other issue is that Isles fans r def gonna value Beau way more than Compher based on his contract status and highly theoretical upside.

Fair enough. I do think that Varlamov to COL is an interesting idea for both teams-- not sure what that looks like, but COL would need at least some retention to be interested (if Kuemper is too expensive). And for what it's worth, I do think Girard gets overvalued pretty hard on this site-- he's good, but not amazing. I do think a Girard - Dobson would be an interesting pairing though.

Avs may want retention but they certainly don’t need it. Isles aren’t gonna retain salary in what is supposed to be a cost cutting move.

Reality of the matter is that each teams fanbase overvalued one young player on this site. For the Avs that guy is Girard and for the isles that guy is beau lol.

Issue with Beau is that Trotz and Lou did everything they could to make his life harder. Kid is a natural center and whenever they’ve had injuries they’ve used a call up or Josh Bailey at center over him. It’s worth mentioning Josh Bailey hates playing center lmao.

I like Beauvillier and have never been a big Compher guy, but Compher just scored 6 more goals and had only one less point in five fewer games than Beau. The latter is signed longer, so I guess there's that, but the main point is that I don't think Beauvillier has as much value as many others here think.

Girard is the best player in the trade by a lot, he has the best contract by a lot, and he plays the most important position. Add that the difference between Beauvillier and Compher isn't as great as folks think means the pick is absolutely necessary. And I actually still doubt Colorado says yes here.

A good effort here though imo. It's at least in the neighborhood and elicits some thought.

Under Trotz the isles neglected to develop young talent and then took credit whenever a young player started to do well. Scratching someone doesn’t make them better. Burakovsky and Stephenson would probably agree with me.

Don’t think the Islanders even consider it. Even if ur right about Girard, he’s currently hurt which has an immense impact on his trade value.

I can't agree with that. He'll by fine by next year.

Issue with ur Compher V Beauvillier logic is that Compher plays on a good team in a supporting role. Barry put Beauvillier on the 4th line then yelled at him for not scoring. I like Compher btw. I even like Girard. But asking for two guys who may be more valuable to the Habs next year along with a pick is kind of ridiculous imo.

There’s going to be risk when a guy gets hurt like Girard did.

I get that you don’t want to agree with it and I agree he has value. But there’s a legit argument over who is better in the playoffs Beau or Girard. I don’t think you can evaluate what Beau has done in the regular season the past few years.

Trotz gets a lot of credit for the isles success. That being said he played Leo Komarov on the first line in a ****ing game 7. At a certain point I have to think the guy doing that is part of the problem.

I like Beau. If the Isles want to sell low on him, which they shouldn't, I'd be in. I'm not trading Girard for him though. It doesn't make sense for the Avs.

I’d trade Girard to clear cap space and get some draft capital tbh so I can’t blame u. Hockey trades don’t usually happen for a reason lmao.

Trotz dragged down Beauvillier. That I agree with. Girard had to drag Jack Johnson around the ice this year, which brought him down as well. Neither player is at their point of strongest value.

Agreed. I personally wouldn’t trade for a guy who is injured tho.

Girard would get eaten alive by Tampa/Boston/Washington forecheckers in the playoffs if he even got there healthy. They would absolutely target him by dumping the puck in his corner and plastering him against the boards.