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Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2022
Published: Jun. 29, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,750,000
3$2,750,000
7$7,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,750,000
1$950,000
2$3,000,000
Trades
1.
OTT
MIN
  1. Järventie, Roby
  2. Lodin, Viktor
  3. Thomson, Lassi
  4. 2022 1st round pick (OTT)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
2.
OTT
    Figure out something to get rid of them
    ARI
    1. Hamonic, Travis
    2. Murray, Matt
    3. Zaitsev, Nikita
    4. 2022 3rd round pick (BOS)
    5. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
    6. 2024 3rd round pick (OTT)
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    2023
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    Logo of the NSH
    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$76,181,547$0$4,450,000$6,318,453
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $8,205,714$8,205,714
    LW
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $7,750,000$7,750,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    C
    UFA - 1
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $4,975,000$4,975,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LW
    RFA
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $3,600,000$3,600,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Minnesota Wild
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $1,300,000$1,300,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $750,000$750,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $950,000$950,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $863,333$863,333
    C, LW
    RFA - 3

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    Jun. 29, 2022 at 8:47 a.m.
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    Guerin doesn't want to trade dumba. Dumba has to 10 team no trade. Minnesota isn't making their d worse by trading dumba
    Jun. 29, 2022 at 8:54 a.m.
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    I doubt they trade both
    Jun. 29, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wildnochance
    Guerin doesn't want to trade dumba. Dumba has to 10 team no trade. Minnesota isn't making their d worse by trading dumba


    Dumba has been available for 2+ years, he’s certainly still available now. Dumba is from Canada, I’d doubt he has Ottawa on his 10 team list. We’ve got a cheap Dumba replacement on the roster already in Addison.
    Jun. 29, 2022 at 9:00 a.m.
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    I doubt they trade both


    I could definitely see it. Russo has been saying BG hasn’t had talks with Dumba on an extension but There hasn’t been much noise around trading for Dumba. It’s possible both are moved this off-season, but Dumba is most likely moved at the trade deadline if we’re outside looking in or he’s gone UFA next year.
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    Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:37 a.m.
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    Edited Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
    Quoting: vikhodush
    I doubt they trade both


    Why not? It frees up more cap and gives Guerin more options. We only have $6.5 million in cap room this offseason to re-sign Middleton, add a goalie, add a depth forward and have room for injuries. It's going to be extremely tight as is. Moving Dumba gives us breathing room and opens up an whole higher tier in free agency.
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    Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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    Quoting: futurehofer
    Why not? It frees up more cap and gives Guerin more options. We onpy have $6.5 million in cap room this offseason to re-sign Middleton, add a goalie, add a depth defenseman, and have room for injuries. It's going to be extremely tight as is. Moving Dumba gives us breathing room and opens up an whole higher tier in free agency.


    I just think if you’re moving Dumba you probably shouldn’t move Fiala because it’s going to be really hard to replace his output. But it also seems like it’s obvious at this point that BG is moving Fiala so at that point I would assume moving Dumba doesn’t make sense.

    Dumba is overpaid but still a solid second pairing guy. If you replace him it’s not going to be for a league min guy and you’d be look at somebody making 4m so not sure the difference is worth it
    Jun. 29, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    I just think if you’re moving Dumba you probably shouldn’t move Fiala because it’s going to be really hard to replace his output. But it also seems like it’s obvious at this point that BG is moving Fiala so at that point I would assume moving Dumba doesn’t make sense.

    Dumba is overpaid but still a solid second pairing guy. If you replace him it’s not going to be for a league min guy and you’d be look at somebody making 4m so not sure the difference is worth it


    If we trade Dumba, it would still require another piece being moved to afford Fiala. That $6.5 million we have does not leave much extra room. Moving Dumba frees up $6 million for 1 year and Fiala turned down a multi-year deal for $6 million last offseason wanting something at least in the $7-8 million range. Realistically, Fiala's gone either way. Moving Dumba allows us to spend more than league minimum on the other pieces we need.

    Also, Dumba wasn't very good last year. He ranked 5th best or lower out of our 8 defensemen with 200+ minutes last season (depending on the metric you use). He actively brought down Brodin if you compare Brodin's numbers with Dumba vs with literally anyone else. The only one arguably as bad of a partner was Goligoski. If we could find someone statistically on par with Dumba for even $4 million, I'd gladly take that extra cap room. Every dollar counts for us for the next 3 years of cap hell so an extra $2 million would be amazing
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    Jun. 29, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: futurehofer
    If we trade Dumba, it would still require another piece being moved to afford Fiala. That $6.5 million we have does not leave much extra room. Moving Dumba frees up $6 million for 1 year and Fiala turned down a multi-year deal for $6 million last offseason wanting something at least in the $7-8 million range. Realistically, Fiala's gone either way. Moving Dumba allows us to spend more than league minimum on the other pieces we need.

    Also, Dumba wasn't very good last year. He ranked 5th best or lower out of our 8 defensemen with 200+ minutes last season (depending on the metric you use). He actively brought down Brodin if you compare Brodin's numbers with Dumba vs with literally anyone else. The only one arguably as bad of a partner was Goligoski. If we could find someone statistically on par with Dumba for even $4 million, I'd gladly take that extra cap room. Every dollar counts for us for the next 3 years of cap hell so an extra $2 million would be amazing


    I think BG will keep Dumba and hopes he has a better season he wasn't as bad as you make him out to be but he wasn't 2018 Dumba either so if he starts the season off good and the Wild are out of playoff contention then he will be moved at the trade deadline for probably more then you could get in the offseason. Then maybe he resigns as a UFA for less money.
     
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