Going to be very hard to trade Martinez with no retention, and Isles have no interest in giving up a 2 for his full cap hit.

Buffalo isn’t returning 16 for an overpaid 3C

or do they?

wild bill has averaged over 18 mins a night for the last 5 years and has more playoff games played than the entire sabers roster

Yes.

might be over estimating lou

Canucks decline

And yet the Sabres still aren't paying the 16th overall pick for him.

The normal response, “but it’s Lou”. What has Lou done since he has been with the Isles that was an overpay, every contending team in the league wanted Pageau and Palmeri when he traded for them. No one is knocking down Vegas doors to get an overpaid Alec Martinez, teams know they need as much space as they can get and go offersheet Hague.

look up they already did and i drafted jagger firkus

Pretty sure his no trade clause prevents the deal from happening anyway. But in the event that he would actually come he’s signed long-term on a pretty fair deal, and I consider him to be a number 2 caliber Center. But since he won’t it doesn’t really matter.

i agree, i saw a rumour about it a few weeks ago thats why i thought of it, really just needed the cap space for the kane scenario

He’s also a guy who has managed to decreasing point and goal scoring totals every year for the last 4 years. Dude isn’t a cap dump, but given its Vegas that’s trying to move him no way they get anywhere close to a 1st rd pick.