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Created by: zk97

Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 25, 2022

Published: Jul. 25, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Joseph, Mathieu		3	$2,750,000
Brännström, Erik		2	$1,200,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
De Haan, Calvin	1	$2,100,000
Galchenyuk, Alex	1	$1,200,000
Sprong, Daniel	1	$1,650,000

Trades

OTT

Horvat, Bo ($2,750,000 retained)
Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)

VAN

Greig, Ridly
Järventie, Roby
Pettersson, Oskar [Reserve List]
Zaitsev, Nikita
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (WSH)

OTT

2023 6th round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

anywhere

ANA

Hamonic, Travis

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $500,000
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$72,148,214	$0	$4,450,000	$10,351,786

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 6	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 8	DeBrincat, Alex $6,400,000$6,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Miller, J.T. $2,625,000$2,625,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 3
Joseph, Mathieu $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Horvat, Bo $1,375,000$1,375,000 C UFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1
Galchenyuk, Alex $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1		Sprong, Daniel $1,650,000$1,650,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 2	Gambrell, Dylan $950,000$950,000 C UFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Talbot, Cam $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 1
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD UFA - 2	De Haan, Calvin $2,100,000$2,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 3
Holden, Nick $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Brännström, Erik $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Thomson, Lassi $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 5

Jul. 25, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.

NDoody

Joined: Aug. 2019

Posts: 1,668

Likes: 772

No Go for me, top 6 is better now than after adding Miller and Horvat, and they def don't need them in a bottom 6 role.

Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.

zk97

Thread Starter

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 15,940

Likes: 8,574

Quoting: NDoody

No Go for me, top 6 is better now than after adding Miller and Horvat, and they def don't need them in a bottom 6 role.

you'd rather mathieu joseph/shane pinto at 2LW than jt miller?

Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.

alwaysnextyear

Joined: Jun. 2015

Posts: 5,547

Likes: 1,576

I’ll go ahead and decline for VAN real quick.

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.

mv21227

Joined: Jul. 2020

Posts: 10,296

Likes: 9,480

Canucks decline pretty easily. Giving up a PPG player and their captain with retention while also taking on a cap dump and only getting one top prospect and one 1st. Plus not even a good young RHD in the trade

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.

canucksfan43

Joined: Feb. 2017

Posts: 1,397

Likes: 1,459

they aren't trading horvat, i'm tired of seeing him being traded on this site

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.

NDoody

Joined: Aug. 2019

Posts: 1,668

Likes: 772

Quoting: Zuki9797

you'd rather mathieu joseph/shane pinto at 2LW than jt miller?

Didn't realize this was assuming Batherson is suspended the whole season.

However, even then I would rather play Formenton or Joseph with Stutzle and Debrincat, who could probably play with a monkey on their line and still get 100 points each, and then Giroux with Brady and Norris then give up everything in that trade for one season of Miller and Horvat.
Pinto needs to stay at C, that is one of his biggest strengths.

Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.

DSG

CanucksBoi

Joined: Jul. 2022

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Edited Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.

Canucks hang up the phone and block your number. If you want JT and Horvat long term then we expect good return like one of Norris or DeBrincat and one of Batherson or Formenton.

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.

majormoose007

MajorMoose

Joined: Feb. 2019

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Canucks pass extremely easily

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Jul. 25, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.

zk97

Thread Starter

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 15,940

Likes: 8,574

Quoting: alwaysnextyear

I’ll go ahead and decline for VAN real quick.

Quoting: mv21227

Quoting: canucksfan43

they aren't trading horvat, i'm tired of seeing him being traded on this site

Quoting: DSG

Canucks hang up the phone and block your number. If you want JT and Horvat long term then we expect good return like one of Norris or DeBrincat and one of Batherson or Formenton.

Quoting: majormoose007

Canucks pass extremely easily

i'd guess that they would, i just happened to realize that horvat had one year left as well and was like hey why not

Quoting: NDoody

i made this with the assumption that neither of batherson or formenton play (hence why i didnt sign formenton)
but yeah i do agree with what you've said, just made this for sh*ts and giggles

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