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Drouin

Created by: OldHabsFan61
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 25, 2022
Published: Jul. 25, 2022
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I’m just showing this can work for the isles
Free Agent Signings
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3$4,850,000
2$3,200,000
3$950,000
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  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
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  1. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
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22$82,500,000$81,639,963$245,796$1,287,500$860,037
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Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:20 p.m.
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Islanders need to add a top line winger. That isn’t Jonathan Drouin. The second issue is that Bjorkstrand was traded for a third and you want a second for drouin.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
Islanders need to add a top line winger. That isn’t Jonathan Drouin. The second issue is that Bjorkstrand was traded for a third and you want a second for drouin.


Why are you bringing up that trade? It’s irrelevant. You need a winger or two in that top 6. Drouin on your 2nd line setting up Nelson and Walstrom is a good situation
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:24 p.m.
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Quoting: OldHabsFan61
Why are you bringing up that trade? It’s irrelevant. You need a winger or two in that top 6. Drouin on your 2nd line setting up Nelson and Walstrom is a good situation


Of course that trade is relevant. If Bjorkstrand is worth a third than Drohin isn’t worth a second.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
Of course that trade is relevant. If Bjorkstrand is worth a third than Drohin isn’t worth a second.


That’s not how trades work. In fact it’s not how any business transaction works. Columbus has to shed a winger to make room to sign Laine. They choose to shed a long term contract rather than one that’s up in a year in Nyquist.

Regardless it’s irrelevant to this deal. You need a top six winger. You get one at under 3 million for the season. You don’t find many top 6 guys for that cheap unless they’re a very good ELC
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:30 p.m.
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Quoting: OldHabsFan61
That’s not how trades work. In fact it’s not how any business transaction works. Columbus has to shed a winger to make room to sign Laine. They choose to shed a long term contract rather than one that’s up in a year in Nyquist.

Regardless it’s irrelevant to this deal. You need a top six winger. You get one at under 3 million for the season. You don’t find many top 6 guys for that cheap unless they’re a very good ELC


Isles don’t need Drouin tho. He’s injury prone and has barely played the past two years. Isles aren’t giving up a second for him even if you retain 50%. Maybe and I mean maybe you could get a third. But I doubt it.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:36 p.m.
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Romanov isn't making 3.2 on a bridge deal. Think more Timothy Liljegren
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Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:36 p.m.
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Isles don’t need Drouin tho. He’s injury prone and has barely played the past two years. Isles aren’t giving up a second for him even if you retain 50%. Maybe and I mean maybe you could get a third. But I doubt it.


If he’s injured obviously he won’t get traded. All of this is based off him not being injured. Injuries have been his problem. He’s absolutely top six guy when he is playing. His playmaking ability is too good to stay out of a top 6.

And trades are relevant to needs and wants. Player X got a 3rd rounder and he is better than player y, therefore y can’t be a better return isn’t rationale to how this works. Your team traded a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Pageau. Ottawa just did that for Debrincat. We all know which player is a better player but it meant nothing because each deal is a separate transaction. If I am buying a house in Montreal and another person is buying a very similar house in Saskatoon guess who’s paying more for a house?
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:38 p.m.
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
Romanov isn't making 3.2 on a bridge deal. Think more Timothy Liljegren


True. I was doing this more to show Isles fans Drouin would fit into their top 6
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:39 p.m.
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Quoting: OldHabsFan61
If he’s injured obviously he won’t get traded. All of this is based off him not being injured. Injuries have been his problem. He’s absolutely top six guy when he is playing. His playmaking ability is too good to stay out of a top 6.

And trades are relevant to needs and wants. Player X got a 3rd rounder and he is better than player y, therefore y can’t be a better return isn’t rationale to how this works. Your team traded a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Pageau. Ottawa just did that for Debrincat. We all know which this so is a better player but it meant not hi my because each deal is a separate transaction. If I am selling a house in Montreal and another person is selling a very similar house in Saskatoon guess who’s paying more?


I’m not an expert on Canadian real estate, but the isles traded the 28th pick and the 59th pick for Pageau. The Islanders third from that trade was conditional on them winning the cup so it didn’t convey.

DeBrincat got a the 7th, the 39th and a future 3rd. The difference in value between those picks is ridiculous.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:40 p.m.
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Quoting: OldHabsFan61
True. I was doing this more to show Isles fans Drouin would fit into their top 6


Tbh, there's no helping them. I think the isles are one of the ugliest looking teams in the league. Lou has really dismantled them nicely these last few years.
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Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:40 p.m.
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True. I was doing this more to show Isles fans Drouin would fit into their top 6


But the isles don’t need an injury prone forward with mental health issues. I used to like him but ur asking price is way too high. Isles should be targeting someone like Meier not Drouin lol.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
I’m not an expert on Canadian real estate, but the isles traded the 28th pick and the 59th pick for Pageau. The Islanders third from that trade was conditional on them winning the cup so it didn’t convey.

DeBrincat got a the 7th, the 39th and a future 3rd. The difference in value between those picks is ridiculous.


Ok fair point on the picks. I forgot about the conditional 3rd. It was still quite a bit to pay for him. I’ll give you an American example: a 3,000 sq foot home on Long Island isn’t the same price as a similar house in Kentucky
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
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Quoting: OldHabsFan61
Ok fair point on the picks. I forgot about the conditional 3rd. It was still quite a bit to pay for him. I’ll give you an American example: a 3,000 sq foot home on Long Island isn’t the same price as a similar house in Kentucky


Yeah but you can’t compare those two houses the same way you can’t compare those trades lol.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:49 p.m.
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Yeah but you can’t compare those two houses the same way you can’t compare those trades lol.


Each transaction is its own. That’s the whole point. There’s no such thing as one trade market. It only takes two GMs to hook up and make a trade baby
Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:52 p.m.
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no one is giving up a second round pick for drouin unless he can prove he can play a full season (or at least most of one). dude's been extremely unreliable these past few years.
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Jul. 25, 2022 at 8:58 p.m.
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Tbh, there's no helping them. I think the isles are one of the ugliest looking teams in the league. Lou has really dismantled them nicely these last few years.


Ugliest team in the league with 3 top pair defenseman under 30 and a vezina caliber goaltender

It could be worse. The isles could have had the 1st pick in the draft and picked a future middle 6 winger over a star 1C
Jul. 25, 2022 at 9:00 p.m.
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Each transaction is its own. That’s the whole point. There’s no such thing as one trade market. It only takes two GMs to hook up and make a trade baby


Drouin is not even close to the type of player the isles want. Availability is important, and there’s no guarantee he plays half the games next season. Plus he’s a mediocre middle 6 winger at best who can’t score goals.
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Jul. 25, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
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Isles don’t need Drouin tho. He’s injury prone and has barely played the past two years. Isles aren’t giving up a second for him even if you retain 50%. Maybe and I mean maybe you could get a third. But I doubt it.


You are also forgetting he's selfish quites on teams and refuses assignment.
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Jul. 25, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.
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Drouin is not even close to the type of player the isles want. Availability is important, and there’s no guarantee he plays half the games next season. Plus he’s a mediocre middle 6 winger at best who can’t score goals.


No winger on your team can create opportunities the way he can
Jul. 25, 2022 at 11:27 p.m.
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No winger on your team can create opportunities the way he can


Beauvillier and Anders are are both ignificantly better at generating offense than Drouin.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 11:29 p.m.
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Beauvillier and Anders are are both ignificantly better at generating offense than Drouin.


Lee is a goal scorer, completely different type of winger. Beauviller simply hasn’t proven to ever be a top 6 player.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 11:31 p.m.
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Lee is a goal scorer, completely different type of winger. Beauviller simply hasn’t proven to ever be a top 6 player.


that is incorrect. Look at those primary assist rates!


Jul. 25, 2022 at 11:33 p.m.
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that is incorrect. Look at those primary assist rates!




212 goals and a 154 assists for his career tells the story.
Jul. 25, 2022 at 11:33 p.m.
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Lee is a goal scorer, completely different type of winger. Beauviller simply hasn’t proven to ever be a top 6 player.



Drouin has been terrible over the past 3 years. He's a fringe NHLer at this point.
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Jul. 25, 2022 at 11:38 p.m.
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He hasn’t played a full season in 3 years. He’s 27, his career is far from over. He’s a talented player who will find the right place to showcase that talent whenever he hits his UFA next summer. The injuries have held back what he could have been but players careers can still go in a positive direction at 27. There’s always room for a creative player in a lineup
 
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