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Leafs Canucks work out a trade

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Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2022
Published: Jul. 30, 2022
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Taking a shot - Leafs get cap relief this year and a 4th line big body (3rd round pick added for retention on Pearson) and Canucks get a serviceable 3rd pairing rhd and 3rd line Centre this year and clear cap space next year (1 year early) when they have to resign Horvat & Miller (maybe)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,750,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Pearson, Tanner ($1,625,000 retained)
  2. Poolman, Tucker
VAN
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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21$82,500,000$82,480,616$212,500$0$19,384
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 1
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
LW
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UFA - 2
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 ($1,375,000$1M$1,375,000$1M)
RD
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
RFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
RFA - 2

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Jul. 30, 2022 at 11:38 p.m.
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I doubt there will be much interest from the Leafs side. They are just taking on a lot of bad cap, 1.6 mil for a 4th liner and 1,375,000 dead cap in the AHL, and paying in more useful players as well as a pick to do it.
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Jul. 30, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
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I doubt there will be much interest from the Leafs side. They are just taking on a lot of bad cap, 1.6 mil for a 4th liner and 1,375,000 dead cap in the AHL, and paying in more useful players as well as a pick to do it.


Yeah, I agree not ideal - but somehow salary has to move out. And it may mean having to add assets or taking something back that you don’t want.
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Jul. 30, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.
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Yeah, I agree not ideal - but somehow salary has to move out. And it may mean having to add assets or taking something back that you don’t want.


They'd be better off having paid a 3rd to move out Kerfoot, and it's not likely they would have to pay to do it, then burying Holl without taking anything back. They'd be left with 2 mil to make moves elsewhere. There's just no 'why' here to taking on all the bad cap.
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Jul. 30, 2022 at 11:50 p.m.
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I could see maybe something like Kerfoot and Holl for Pearson and Schenn, but not Poolman. That’s too much cap and term for the leafs.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:10 a.m.
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I could see maybe something like Kerfoot and Holl for Pearson and Schenn, but not Poolman. That’s too much cap and term for the leafs.


Canucks would not do that
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:27 a.m.
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I doubt there will be much interest from the Leafs side. They are just taking on a lot of bad cap, 1.6 mil for a 4th liner and 1,375,000 dead cap in the AHL, and paying in more useful players as well as a pick to do it.


What 4th liner is putting up a .5 PPG?
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:29 a.m.
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What 4th liner is putting up a .5 PPG?


The one the OP has on the 4th line.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 12:57 a.m.
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I would keep Pearson over Kerfoot and Poolman will either be effective this year or put on LTIR. No need to take Holl . There is no way Leafs and Nucks are trading this year. Definitely would not do Schenn for Holl.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 1:45 a.m.
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Quoting: OldManRutherford
I would keep Pearson over Kerfoot and Poolman will either be effective this year or put on LTIR. No need to take Holl . There is no way Leafs and Nucks are trading this year. Definitely would not do Schenn for Holl.


Kerfoot has an advantage of only having 1 year left on his contract when compared to Pearson and Holl is a definate upgrade over Poolman and again only has 1 left on his contract.
Jul. 31, 2022 at 1:56 a.m.
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Kerfoot has an advantage of only having 1 year left on his contract when compared to Pearson and Holl is a definate upgrade over Poolman and again only has 1 left on his contract.


Yeah but I don't like Kerfoot and I do like Pearson. I think Pearson is a solid all around player and on a good contract . I don't want anything to do with Kerfoot so I don't care he has one year left.

I really doubt Poolman will play a game this year. I think when Rutherford said he is concerned about his head injury I took that as he better be damn good or we will put him on LTIR like Ferland.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 1:58 a.m.
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Quoting: OldManRutherford
Yeah but I don't like Kerfoot and I do like Pearson. I think Pearson is a solid all around player and on a good contract . I don't want anything to do with Kerfoot so I don't care he has one year left.

I really doubt Poolman will play a game this year. I think when Rutherford said he is concerned about his head injury I took that as he beeter be damn good or we will put him on LTIR like Ferland.


I actually prefer Pearson over Kerfoot as well and think he is a solid character player behind the scenes on a hockey team as well.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 2:29 a.m.
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This is a pretty well thought out trade and it makes a ton of sense. I'd seriously consider it.

The Canucks absolutely have to move a winger before the season starts and Pearson is probably the ideal one for the organization. Kerfoot fills an immediate need at 3C and he's from the West coast say maybe he re-signs at a reasonable rate.

This improves Vancouver's cap space situation a ton as well.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 9:24 a.m.
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Canucks would not do that


You don’t think? It’s not like Pearson has trade value right now.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:25 p.m.
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You don’t think? It’s not like Pearson has trade value right now.


It's more that the Canucks can't take on any cap. I think it's relatively fair but Vancouver can't afford it
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:51 p.m.
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It's more that the Canucks can't take on any cap. I think it's relatively fair but Vancouver can't afford it


That’s a fair point.
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:55 p.m.
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I doubt there will be much interest from the Leafs side. They are just taking on a lot of bad cap, 1.6 mil for a 4th liner and 1,375,000 dead cap in the AHL, and paying in more useful players as well as a pick to do it.


Pearson isn't a fourth liner, do some research
Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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Kerfoot has an advantage of only having 1 year left on his contract when compared to Pearson and Holl is a definate upgrade over Poolman and again only has 1 left on his contract.


Kerfoot having just 1 year remaining isn't any sort of advantage, because Pearson isn't a cap dump. Holl is not necessarily an upgrade over Poolman, not fair to judge since Poolman struggled to stay healthy last year
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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It's more that the Canucks can't take on any cap. I think it's relatively fair but Vancouver can't afford it


They shouldn't be retaining on Pearson for starters
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Yeah but I don't like Kerfoot and I do like Pearson. I think Pearson is a solid all around player and on a good contract . I don't want anything to do with Kerfoot so I don't care he has one year left.

I really doubt Poolman will play a game this year. I think when Rutherford said he is concerned about his head injury I took that as he better be damn good or we will put him on LTIR like Ferland.


Poolman's agent said his client is progressing well, but then again, what else do you expect him to say
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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Pearson isn't a fourth liner, do some research


Everyone values players differently I guess; Pearson would be a 3rd or 4th liner on Leafs. He’d see no PP time on Leafs and he’s averaged <15 goals at 5v5 past few seasons. This is not a hockey trade (leafs don’t need either player and you are saying neither do canuckles); main point is leaf’s get cap relief this year, Canucks next
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.
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Everyone values players differently I guess; Pearson would be a 3rd or 4th liner on Leafs. He’d see no PP time on Leafs and he’s averaged <15 goals at 5v5 past few seasons. This is not a hockey trade (leafs don’t need either player and you are saying neither do canuckles); main point is leaf’s get cap relief this year, Canucks next


Pearson might get 2nd unit PP time, you never know, and he'd play on their 2nd/3rd line most likely if Kerfoot is getting moved
Jul. 31, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.
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Pearson might get 2nd unit PP time, you never know, and he'd play on their 2nd/3rd line most likely if Kerfoot is getting moved


Not saying Pearson is not useful, but Personally I prefer Kerfoot - hard to argue with the stats, 51 pts all 5v5 vs Pearson’s 31 - but the real attraction. was 1 year of Kerf @ $3.5 vs 2 years of Pearson @ $1.625 (50 % retention). Seemed to address both sides most pressing issue
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Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:42 p.m.
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Not saying Pearson is not useful, but Personally I prefer Kerfoot - hard to argue with the stats, 51 pts all 5v5 vs Pearson’s 31 - but the real attraction. was 1 year of Kerf $3.5 vs 2 years of Pearson $1.625 (50 % retention). Seemed to address both sides most pressing issue


The salary retention on Pearson makes no sense at all for Vancouver, you aren't considering the other team's needs
Jul. 31, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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The salary retention on Pearson makes no sense at all for Vancouver, you aren't considering the other team's needs


That’s not true - Canucks owe Pearson $6.5M over 2 years, they’ll pay more of that in 2022 ($3.5M kerf + $1.625M retained) but less in 2023 ($1.625 M retained). Same money, but freed up cap space for Canucks next year when it is more critical - just imo, could be wrong.. Opposite for leafs - they pay less this year (only $1.625 vs $3.5) when it is more critical but more next year ($1.625 vs 0). I believe kerf is better player but leaving that aside this is jut about shifting money to most advantageous year for each team
Jul. 31, 2022 at 11:03 p.m.
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That’s not true - Canucks owe Pearson $6.5M over 2 years, they’ll pay more of that in 2022 ($3.5M kerf + $1.625M retained) but less in 2023 ($1.625 M retained). Same money, but freed up cap space for Canucks next year when it is more critical - just imo, could be wrong.. Opposite for leafs - they pay less this year (only $1.625 vs $3.5) when it is more critical but more next year ($1.625 vs 0). I believe kerf is better player but leaving that aside this is jut about shifting money to most advantageous year for each team


If Kerfoot is the better player, he's not better by very much. I don't care what Pearson is owed in actual dollars after signing bonuses, it makes no sense for the Canucks to retain salary on him
 
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