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Next year

Created by: Ollie79
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2022
Published: Aug. 22, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$2,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,500,000
Trades
CGY
  1. Zadina, Filip [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (STL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$73,944,999$0$15,000$8,555,001
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$875,000$875,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$855,833$855,833
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Aug. 22, 2022 at 2:15 a.m.
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Detroit doesn't need Kylington, They're set long term at LD

Rather give the youngsters a roster spot than Toffoli.

So Detroit passes on both.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 2:30 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Detroit doesn't need Kylington, They're set long term at LD

Rather give the youngsters a roster spot than Toffoli.

So Detroit passes on both.


This is just plain silly. That trade is extremely lopsided in Detroit's favour. They take that and run the. Flip at the deadline for multiple 1sts which Zadina could never return at this point
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Aug. 22, 2022 at 4:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This is just plain silly. That trade is extremely lopsided in Detroit's favour. They take that and run the. Flip at the deadline for multiple 1sts which Zadina could never return at this point


Yeah I'm on this side of the argument. Unless Zadina really pops off this year at take that and deal with the roster later.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 5:10 a.m.
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Yeah I'm on this side of the argument. Unless Zadina really pops off this year at take that and deal with the roster later.


Both Kylington and Toffoli are rentals. I wouldn't trade Zadina, let alone a 2nd round pick, for a 31 year old rental winger and a rental defender.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 5:50 a.m.
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Both Kylington and Toffoli are rentals. I wouldn't trade Zadina, let alone a 2nd round pick, for a 31 year old rental winger and a rental defender.


Lol what does age have to do with anything if they are rentals? Crazy misconceptions people have on that. Age matters for how they will age with the contract down the line. Like the recent Kadri signing, or Logan Couture. Rentals aren't going to fall off a cliff in 2 weeks. Toffoli at 50% would easily return a 1st from a contender. And Kylington gets at least a 2nd.

Zadina on the other hand might pass through waivers this year
Aug. 22, 2022 at 5:55 a.m.
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Unless Zadina jumps off the page this year Detroit takes that and runs.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol what does age have to do with anything if they are rentals? Crazy misconceptions people have on that. Age matters for how they will age with the contract down the line. Like the recent Kadri signing, or Logan Couture. Rentals aren't going to fall off a cliff in 2 weeks. Toffoli at 50% would easily return a 1st from a contender. And Kylington gets at least a 2nd.

Zadina on the other hand might pass through waivers this year


Both age and contract status is important when trading for players. Age is important for your desire to resign them and contract status is important for your desire to acquire them in the first place.

If you are unable to understand that then I can't help you.

Oh, BTW. Your post isn't funny. It's never funny when someone makes a fool of himself.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:54 a.m.
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Sutter wanted Toffoli. I can't see Calgary trading him.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Unless Zadina jumps off the page this year Detroit takes that and runs.


Agreed but I don't think Toffoli is available. Flames are a win now team and Toffoli is a part of that. He's well schooled in Sutter hockey 101.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 7:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Both age and contract status is important when trading for players. Age is important for your desire to resign them and contract status is important for your desire to acquire them in the first place.

If you are unable to understand that then I can't help you.

Oh, BTW. Your post isn't funny. It's never funny when someone makes a fool of himself.


When you are trading a borderline bust for a top 6 winger and a top 4 defenseman you don't ask questions. The only one making a fool of themselves here is you since you have horrible player evaluation
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Aug. 22, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Both age and contract status is important when trading for players. Age is important for your desire to resign them and contract status is important for your desire to acquire them in the first place.

If you are unable to understand that then I can't help you.

Oh, BTW. Your post isn't funny. It's never funny when someone makes a fool of himself.


The Panthers gave up a 1st plus in aquiring both Chiarot and Giroux, and the Flames gave up a 2nd and 3rd for Calle Jarnkrok. All 3 of those guys were trade deadline rentals who walked afterwards, and are on the wrong side of 30. I'm sure those teams wanted to get those players to stick around for more than ~15-20 regular season games, but couldn't afford it.

When teams are good, they're willing to give up significant futures in hopes of success in the present. They don't care about age or contract status. They care about results.

If you are unable to understand that, then I can't help you.

Toffoli is typically good for about 20 goals and 50 points, and isn't a traffic cone defensively. Kylington had finally established himself on Calgary's blue line this year as a middle pairing guy on one of the best teams defensively. Both guys, at least right now, are a lot better than Zadina. And I'm skeptical that that will change.
Aug. 22, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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Why would Calgary do this? This trade makes ZERO sense for Detroit as far as personnel and Detroit still takes that trade in a heartbeat and laughs all the way to the bank. This would be an absolute thievery for Detroit. We'd figure out the personnel issues after and end up with even more assets.
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Aug. 22, 2022 at 11:02 a.m.
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Agreed but I don't think Toffoli is available. Flames are a win now team and Toffoli is a part of that. He's well schooled in Sutter hockey 101.


The whole trade is absurd really
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