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Horvat

Created by: Richard88
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 23, 2022
Published: Sep. 23, 2022
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Team Explanation
Just illustrating what a Horvat trade would probably have to look like and how it would work cap-wise.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Behrens, Sean3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Byram, Bowen3$4,500,000
Meyers, Ben2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Horvat, Bo7$7,000,000
Blidh, Anton1$800,000
Sedlak, Lukas1$800,000
Johnson, Erik1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
COL
    Horvat with extension in place 7x7
    VAN
    1. Newhook, Alex [RFA Rights]
    2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
    2.
    COL
      For futures/ELC roster forwards due to cap (any team)
      VAN
      1. Girard, Samuel
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2023
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      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the COL
      2024
      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the COL
      2025
      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the COL
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      21$83,500,000$83,279,167$0$57,500$220,833
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      Logo of the COL
      Landeskog, Gabriel
      $7,000,000
      LW, C
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the COL
      MacKinnon, Nathan
      $12,600,000
      C, RW
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo of the COL
      Nichushkin, Valeri
      $6,125,000
      RW, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      Logo of the COL
      Lehkonen, Artturi
      $4,500,000
      LW, RW
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      Horvat, Bo
      $7,000,000
      C
      UFA
      Logo of the COL
      Rantanen, Mikko
      $9,250,000
      RW, C
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the COL
      Foudy, Jean-Luc
      $847,500
      C
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the COL
      Meyers, Ben
      $2,000,000
      LW, C
      RFA
      Logo of the COL
      Olausson, Oskar
      $894,167
      RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the COL
      Blidh, Anton
      $800,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      Logo of the COL
      Sedlak, Lukas
      $800,000
      LW, C, RW
      UFA
      Logo of the COL
      O'Connor, Logan
      $1,050,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 2
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the COL
      Toews, Devon
      $4,100,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the COL
      Makar, Cale
      $9,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the COL
      Georgiev, Alexandar
      $3,400,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the COL
      Byram, Bowen
      $4,500,000
      LD
      RFA
      Logo of the COL
      Manson, Josh
      $4,500,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the COL
      Francouz, Pavel
      $2,000,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the COL
      Behrens, Sean
      $925,000
      LD
      RFA
      Logo of the COL
      Johnson, Erik
      $1,000,000
      RD
      UFA
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the COL
      MacDermid, Kurtis
      $987,500
      LD/RD, LW
      UFA - 1

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      Sep. 23 at 7:41 p.m.
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      Personally I’d role with the cost controlled Newhook and keep the pick. 7x7 is a pretty steep price for a guy with one 60 pt seasons.
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      Sep. 23 at 7:47 p.m.
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      Personally I’d role with the cost controlled Newhook and keep the pick. 7x7 is a pretty steep price for a guy with one 60 pt seasons.


      To be fair to Horvat, in years past he did not have a great supporting cast. Comments on Canucks for years were that Bo needed decent wingers. If he plays with Garland and Podkolzin this year he should hit 30 goals again.
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      Sep. 23 at 7:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      Personally I’d role with the cost controlled Newhook and keep the pick. 7x7 is a pretty steep price for a guy with one 60 pt seasons.


      I agree with this as I have no horse in the race

      Doesn’t make sense for the Avs
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      Sep. 23 at 7:51 p.m.
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      Too much imo for Colorado to pay.
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      Sep. 23 at 7:52 p.m.
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      VAN takes this all day idgaf what anyone says
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      Sep. 23 at 7:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      Personally I’d role with the cost controlled Newhook and keep the pick. 7x7 is a pretty steep price for a guy with one 60 pt seasons.


      I agree. A 7m 2C is really hard to squeeze. It works, but it relies on Byram and Meyers taking a combined $6.5m; having 3 ELC's (2 third liners and a Dman); 3 <$1m depth signings; and rolling a 21 man roster. Seems a bit too ambitious.
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      Sep. 23 at 8:32 p.m.
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      Quoting: OldManRutherford
      To be fair to Horvat, in years past he did not have a great supporting cast. Comments on Canucks for years were that Bo needed decent wingers. If he plays with Garland and Podkolzin this year he should hit 30 goals again.


      I’m not questioning Horvat I think he is really good, but given COL’s cap situation I personally think Newhook at 50pts cost controlled and a 1st in a deep draft is worth more.
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      Sep. 23 at 8:45 p.m.
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      Personally I’d role with the cost controlled Newhook and keep the pick. 7x7 is a pretty steep price for a guy with one 60 pt seasons.


      Quoting: Richard88
      I agree. A 7m 2C is really hard to squeeze. It works, but it relies on Byram and Meyers taking a combined $6.5m; having 3 ELC's (2 third liners and a Dman); 3 <$1m depth signings; and rolling a 21 man roster. Seems a bit too ambitious.


      Newhook should only get better and he fits to a T how this Avalanche roster is built.

      Can't underestimate how important it is having good players on ELC's in your lineup especially with the high priced talent the Avalanche have. Use the 2023 first to draft another one.
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      Sep. 23 at 9:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: BruinsCharlies
      Newhook should only get better and he fits to a T how this Avalanche roster is built.

      Can't underestimate how important it is having good players on ELC's in your lineup especially with the high priced talent the Avalanche have. Use the 2023 first to draft another one.


      Exactly. You could argue that the Avs core is MacK, Makar, Mikko, Landy, Nichushkin, Byram and Newhook and the importance of the last 2 being kinda cost controlled can’t be overstated.
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      Sep. 24 at 3:33 a.m.
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      Quoting: Xqb15a
      Exactly. You could argue that the Avs core is MacK, Makar, Mikko, Landy, Nichushkin, Byram and Newhook and the importance of the last 2 being kinda cost controlled can’t be overstated.


      Interesting that Bednar mentioned in his presser yesterday that he would "ideally" want to play Newhook between Landeskog and Nichushkin. Talk about putting a young C in a position to succeed. Those two would help him defensively and with faceoffs a tonne.
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      Sep. 24 at 4:27 a.m.
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      Quoting: Richard88
      Interesting that Bednar mentioned in his presser yesterday that he would "ideally" want to play Newhook between Landeskog and Nichushkin. Talk about putting a young C in a position to succeed. Those two would help him defensively and with faceoffs a tonne.

      Absolutely! Landeskog could shepherd him much the way he did MacKinnon once MacK took over the 1C role, it’s one of the reasons I’ve always thought Landeskog is kinda underrated.
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