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Signing Monahan short term - 2023 season

Created by: Fran615
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 25, 2022
Published: Sep. 25, 2022
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      Sep. 25, 2022 at 11:20 a.m.
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      On your playstation ? Maybe, Monahan at 7M lmao
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      Sep. 25, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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      Quoting: Poehling
      On your playstation ? Maybe, Monahan at 7M lmao


      The Flames gave a 1st rounder to the Habs to get it out of their hands. Some folks on here claim he is done, Re: injuries.

      Unless you have a crystal ball, no one knows for sure how he'll fare this season.
      Same for me. I have no clue (humility).

      If you 100% know the future, let me know how he did this upcoming season.
      I was just proposing this contract as a 2-year "let's see how injury is going" type scenario.

      But your entitlement let's me see your mental age.

      And if my contract suggestion makes you go 'lmao', you have the most boring life imaginable.

      So... will Monahan have a bad, medium, or great season? You seem to know!

      Answer this instead of mocking like a 12-year old woke idiot.
      Sep. 25, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.
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      Quoting: Fran615
      The Flames gave a 1st rounder to the Habs to get it out of their hands. Some folks on here claim he is done, Re: injuries.

      Unless you have a crystal ball, no one knows for sure how he'll fare this season.
      Same for me. I have no clue (humility).

      If you 100% know the future, let me know how he did this upcoming season.
      I was just proposing this contract as a 2-year "let's see how injury is going" type scenario.

      But your entitlement let's me see your mental age.

      And if my contract suggestion makes you go 'lmao', you have the most boring life imaginable.

      So... will Monahan have a bad, medium, or great season? You seem to know!

      Answer this instead of mocking like a 12-year old woke idiot.


      Bro you’re talking about mental age when you’re the one going on a rant when someone disagrees with you like cmon man.
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      Sep. 25, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
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      Even if Monahan has a good season, I think MTL will be able to get him for less than 7
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      Sep. 25, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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      Quoting: Fran615
      The Flames gave a 1st rounder to the Habs to get it out of their hands. Some folks on here claim he is done, Re: injuries.

      Unless you have a crystal ball, no one knows for sure how he'll fare this season.
      Same for me. I have no clue (humility).

      If you 100% know the future, let me know how he did this upcoming season.
      I was just proposing this contract as a 2-year "let's see how injury is going" type scenario.

      But your entitlement let's me see your mental age.

      And if my contract suggestion makes you go 'lmao', you have the most boring life imaginable.

      So... will Monahan have a bad, medium, or great season? You seem to know!

      Answer this instead of mocking like a 12-year old woke idiot.


      If Monahan bounce back, he isn’t getting anything above 5M
      And MTL are already set in the middle with Suzuki Dach Dvorak & Evans. MTL probably end up with a top 6-7 pick, which means they probably draft the best player available, Bedard C Fantilli C Michkov W Dvorsky C Carlsson C Yager C Benson W Ritchie C. Lots of center. MTL have already too many wingers, I just can’t see Dadonov Monahan Drouin Byron coming back next year
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      Sep. 25, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
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      So I know you're probably going to start freaking out about my mental age or something, but there are a couple of problems here.

      1) Monahan will not get 7 million (ie. close to Suzuki money), Calgary literally paid us a first-rounder to take the last year of his deal. Even Evander Kane signed in Edmonton for way less and played way better than Monahan will.

      2) I get dumping Hoffman's contract for nothing cause he sucks, but Edmunson is still a solid D and could definitely get around a first-round pick if we decide to move him (he's better than Chiarot)
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      Sep. 25, 2022 at 3:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: Fran615
      The Flames gave a 1st rounder to the Habs to get it out of their hands. Some folks on here claim he is done, Re: injuries.

      Unless you have a crystal ball, no one knows for sure how he'll fare this season.
      Same for me. I have no clue (humility).

      If you 100% know the future, let me know how he did this upcoming season.
      I was just proposing this contract as a 2-year "let's see how injury is going" type scenario.

      But your entitlement let's me see your mental age.

      And if my contract suggestion makes you go 'lmao', you have the most boring life imaginable.

      So... will Monahan have a bad, medium, or great season? You seem to know!

      Answer this instead of mocking like a 12-year old woke idiot.


      I mean, you’re insulting him for presuming Monahan won’t have a good season. You’re doing the same thing by giving him a higher AAV, assuming his play will be better. In other words, you’re doing the same presuming.

      @tommybarzy is making the more reasoned assumption that Monaghan’s play won’t get back to the level it was several years ago based on his recent play. So yeah, this isn’t a good contract.

      Or, whatever, he’s too woke or something.
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      Sep. 27, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.
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      Quoting: Tommybarzy
      Bro you’re talking about mental age when you’re the one going on a rant when someone disagrees with you like cmon man.


      tears of joy
      Sep. 27, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: Poehling
      If Monahan bounce back, he isn’t getting anything above 5M
      And MTL are already set in the middle with Suzuki Dach Dvorak & Evans. MTL probably end up with a top 6-7 pick, which means they probably draft the best player available, Bedard C Fantilli C Michkov W Dvorsky C Carlsson C Yager C Benson W Ritchie C. Lots of center. MTL have already too many wingers, I just can’t see Dadonov Monahan Drouin Byron coming back next year


      I wonder if Dvorak/Dach are actually set in stone in MTL for the future. Evans has a ridiculously team-freindly contract and Suzuki, well, captain.
      I agree with you on the next draft center class. Monahan probably isn't coming back.

      Note: sorry for my bad temper the other day.
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      Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:01 p.m.
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      Quoting: Captain_Tits
      So I know you're probably going to start freaking out about my mental age or something, but there are a couple of problems here.

      1) Monahan will not get 7 million (ie. close to Suzuki money), Calgary literally paid us a first-rounder to take the last year of his deal. Even Evander Kane signed in Edmonton for way less and played way better than Monahan will.

      2) I get dumping Hoffman's contract for nothing cause he sucks, but Edmunson is still a solid D and could definitely get around a first-round pick if we decide to move him (he's better than Chiarot)


      I shouldn't have ranted like this hehe,... not enough hockey during summer I guess tears of joy

      1) True, I agree with you.

      2) The thing with Edmundson is that his value has maybe dropped significantly because of his reccurent back issues. I didn't want his ACGM trade value to be the topic on this thread. But yeah, he wouldn't fetch 'Future considerations'
      Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
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      I wonder if Dvorak/Dach are actually set in stone in MTL for the future. Evans has a ridiculously team-freindly contract and Suzuki, well, captain.
      I agree with you on the next draft center class. Monahan probably isn't coming back.


      They traded Romanov for Dach so yes Dach is set and stone
      Not Dvorak tho, they will trade him the minute they receive a good offer. He doesn’t fit the new identity MTL want, but until we know what we get next year at the draft, he is staying put. But in a scenario we get a good offer for Dvorak and he is being dealt at the TDL, and Monahan fits well and bounce back. Then I could see him coming back on a 1-2 years deal around 4-4.5M
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      Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
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      Quoting: dopplsan
      I mean, you’re insulting him for presuming Monahan won’t have a good season. You’re doing the same thing by giving him a higher AAV, assuming his play will be better. In other words, you’re doing the same presuming.

      tommybarzy is making the more reasoned assumption that Monaghan’s play won’t get back to the level it was several years ago based on his recent play. So yeah, this isn’t a good contract.

      Or, whatever, he’s too woke or something.


      tears of joy

      I get it, Monahan isn't getting 7M AAV.
      I reacted like that becauses people usually don't just disagree, they tend to overreact when someone tries something to spark debate.

      Everyone -- including myself lol - have calmed down about it.

      Sorry folks for having snapped too quickly cool
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      Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:09 p.m.
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      They traded Romanov for Dach so yes Dach is set and stone
      Not Dvorak tho, they will trade him the minute they receive a good offer. He doesn’t fit the new identity MTL want, but until we know what we get next year at the draft, he is staying put. But in a scenario we get a good offer for Dvorak and he is being dealt at the TDL, and Monahan fits well and bounce back. Then I could see him coming back on a 1-2 years deal around 4-4.5M


      I don't know why, but I feel nervous with Dach... not sure he'll actually become the Dach the Habs thinks he can beccome.
      Not that I miss Romanov as much as I thought I'd miss him in the lineup (Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj)

      Dvorak is interesting because he had MUCH better numbers under coach MSL last year, and if he gets back to decent numbers, his contract AAV is actually not that bad, and could be much more attractive for another team, fetching something more potent than just getting rid of his contract like the plague.

      It's a really horrible thing to say, but one of the best scenarios would be if there are some injuries at forwards early in the season, and that everyone can stay put, get back to value-territory, and fetch decent assets in return.
      Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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      I don't know why, but I feel nervous with Dach... not sure he'll actually become the Dach the Habs thinks he can beccome.
      Not that I miss Romanov as much as I thought I'd miss him in the lineup (Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj)

      Dvorak is interesting because he had MUCH better numbers under coach MSL last year, and if he gets back to decent numbers, his contract AAV is actually not that bad, and could be much more attractive for another team, fetching something more potent than just getting rid of his contract like the plague.

      It's a really horrible thing to say, but one of the best scenarios would be if there are some injuries at forwards early in the season, and that everyone can stay put, get back to value-territory, and fetch decent assets in return.


      Dvorak value isn’t worth a 1st Right Now, but he didn’t had a bad season. He was great on the faceoff, didn’t look like a 2C under Ducharme but who did good under Ducharme (ok Lehky). But Dvorak right now as to prove if he can be a 2nd line Center or he’ll be a good 3C. Not sure on Dach either, but we’ll give him a chance, he’s only 21 yo
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      Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:42 p.m.
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      tears of joy

      I get it, Monahan isn't getting 7M AAV.
      I reacted like that becauses people usually don't just disagree, they tend to overreact when someone tries something to spark debate.

      Everyone -- including myself lol - have calmed down about it.

      Sorry folks for having snapped too quickly cool


      This should be posted somewhere in a museum.

      “Not everyone on the internet sucks always.”
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