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3 Way Trade

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 14, 2022
Published: Oct. 14, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
LA Gets:
Chychrun
LA Loses:
Roy
2023 1st (top 3 protection)
2024 3rd
Turcotte

Arizona Gets:
Zaitzev
Ottawa 2023 1st (top 10 protection)
LA 2023 1st (top 3 protection)
Thomson
Turcotte
LA 2024 3rd
Arizona Loses:
Chychrun

Ottawa Gets:
Roy
Ottawa Loses:
Zaitsev
2023 1st (top 10 protection)
Thomson

Arizona get future assests (a lot of them) and a cap dump.
LA upgrades their left D
Ottawa upgrades their right D

Thoughts on the trade?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,000,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Thomson, Lassi
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
top 10 protected
2.
OTT
  1. Roy, Matt
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
top 3 protected
3.
OTT
ARI
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (LAK)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$78,081,548$0$4,025,000$4,418,452
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 6
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW
RFA
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 1
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 2
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$821,667$821,667
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1

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Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.
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LA is not trading Matt Roy, even for Chychrun.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
LA is not trading Matt Roy, even for Chychrun.


They have a ton of nice pieces on the right side. Roy is clearly very good but I would rather keep a guy like Durzi and Clarke. Will be better for them long term.

Their left side is lacking hard though.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
LA is not trading Matt Roy, even for Chychrun.


How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans


Forgot Doughty on that list also :P.

Thoughts on the trade from the Ottawa side of things?
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:33 p.m.
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Can't see LA doing that. Too many quality pieces to just walk out with a decent second pair d.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.
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If Ottawa could have traded Zaitsev by now, you think they would have. Zaitsev has M NTC which likely excludes Arizona. Besides Arizona has no desire to take on 9m of real money of Zaitsev.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Timmah007
Can't see LA doing that. Too many quality pieces to just walk out with a decent second pair d.


He would be their best dman on the left side by a decent margin.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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If Ottawa could have traded Zaitsev by now, you think they would have. Zaitsev has M NTC which likely excludes Arizona. Besides Arizona has no desire to take on 9m of real money of Zaitsev.
Gee, a competent Monahan took a first rounder to get rid of his 6.3m contract for one year. Zaitsev add his 9m would take more, so the offer proposed to Arizona is weak.


Ottawa is in no rush to move out his cap. They don't need the cap space this year. They could benefit from it being moved next year. May as well keep Zaitsev and his cap this year as depth UNLESS he is traded in a package for a better dman (Which they do here). He will cost a lot less to ship out in the off season. As for his NTC - you may be right.

This total package is MASSIVE for Arizona. The full package going to Arizona is:

Zaitzev (replacement player + cap dump)
Ottawa 2023 1st (top 10 protection)
LA 2023 1st (top 3 protection)
Thomson
Turcotte
LA 2024 3rd

That is a BIG package. 2 very nice propescts, 2 firsts, 1 3rd and a very manageable cap dump.

Arizona does not turn this down. LA and/or Ottawa might though.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.
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Hey Brian, I did see the additional "LA assets" going to Arizona, and agree with you...it's good deal for Arizona.
You're right, Sens don't need Zaitsev's contract gone this season. Maybe next season even if it's buyout.
But I don't understand all this love for Chychun by either LA, Ottawa and other posts which include Vancouver, Oilers and Leafs.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:52 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
They have a ton of nice pieces on the right side. Roy is clearly very good but I would rather keep a guy like Durzi and Clarke. Will be better for them long term.

Their left side is lacking hard though.


Quoting: csick
How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans


I'm not gatekeeping those guys.

Doughty, Roy, and Clarke will not be moved.

Durzi, Spence, and Grans are all available for the right trade.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Hey Brian, I did see the additional "LA assets" going to Arizona, and agree with you...it's good deal for Arizona.
You're right, Sens don't need Zaitsev's contract gone this season. Maybe next season even if it's buyout.
But I don't understand all this love for Chychun by either LA, Ottawa and other posts which include Vancouver, Oilers and Leafs.


Me neither. The best I would do at this point for Chychrun would be a 1st, Turcotte, and Walker. If Arizona wants to upgrade from Walker to a defensive prospect like Spence or Durzi, then downgrade the forward prospect from Turcotte to Tyler Madden or Akil Thomas.

If that's not enough, then Arizona can keep him.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
I'm not gatekeeping those guys.

Doughty, Roy, and Clarke will not be moved.

Durzi, Spence, and Grans are all available for the right trade.


Beside a team can't have enough NHL calibre Dmen. If needed in time, they can easily be traded. Teams need at least 7 NHL Dmen per season, even eight. No urgency for the Kings to trade anyone.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
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Beside a team can't have enough NHL calibre Dmen. If needed in time, they can easily be traded. Teams need at least 7 NHL Dmen per season, even eight. No urgency for the Kings to trade anyone.


I agree. If anyone learned that the hard way last season, it was the Kings. At one point, all six of the defensemen that started in the season opener were out with injuries.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.
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OTT easy pass
Oct. 14, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
OTT easy pass


You sure? They get a very good defensive right dman in Roy and get off of Zaitsevs contract. They pay a 1st and a very good prospect in Thomson though.

Ottawa Gets:
Roy
Ottawa Loses:
Zaitsev
2023 1st (top 10 protection)
Thomson

I think Ottawa does this easy. Roy is EXACTLY what Ottawa needs.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 7:50 p.m.
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I find it's a nice proposal overall
Oct. 14, 2022 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans


Roy Clarke and Doughty are the only unmoveables on RD.
 
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