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Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2022
Published: Oct. 19, 2022
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Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
  2. Khaira, Jujhar
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (DAL)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (CHI)
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3rd team like Ari in this deal to cut out a bit more cap, spread parts of deal to them as you see fit, also a bottom 6/13th FW type player back to the pens from Chi or the third team, ie Khaira or Fischer type. I’ll use Khaira as that placeholder
CHI
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Légaré, Nathan
  4. McGinn, Brock
  5. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  7. 2024 3rd round pick (PIT)
  8. 2025 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
ARI
  1. Khaira, Jujhar
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Nvm I wanted to see the roster with Fischer on it instead lmao
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$70,349,800$0$400,000$12,150,200

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-$2,625,000-$2,625,000
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
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UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
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$750,000$750,000
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$900,000$900,000
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UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:45 p.m.
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Ignoring everything else, putting Kane on the third line is just another reason he's not waiving for pit. Pretty insulting actually.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:48 p.m.
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Ignoring everything else, putting Kane on the third line is just another reason he's not waiving for pit. Pretty insulting actually.


I mean that’s just where I have him on here, doesn’t mean that’s where he’d end up, but if he wants first line minutes guaranteed there’s definitely better places to go
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.
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Seems like a lot to give up for a 3rd line winger.

Everyone will roast me, but Chi would rather keep the 2 2023 3rd rd picks than take on McGinn and Kapanen. Maybe they take them for keeping the 2 3rds.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:51 p.m.
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I mean that’s just where I have him on here, doesn’t mean that’s where he’d end up, but if he wants first line minutes guaranteed there’s definitely better places to go


I give pit a less than zero chance of getting Kane but why wouldn't you put him with Crosby? He'd be the highest IQ player Crosby has ever played with. Could be Kane and panarin all over again.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:54 p.m.
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I give pit a less than zero chance of getting Kane but why wouldn't you put him with Crosby? He'd be the highest IQ player Crosby has ever played with. Could be Kane and panarin all over again.


I just put him there for now on here but I’d think he would go in the top 6, I just don’t know where everyone else goes that’s why I let him on the 3rd, Rust and Zucker have been killing it with Geno so you don’t break that up and Rak was meh with Carter last season
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.
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I just put him there for now on here but I’d think he would go in the top 6, I just don’t know where everyone else goes that’s why I let him on the 3rd, Rust and Zucker have been killing it with Geno so you don’t break that up and Rak was meh with Carter last season


So you swap kane with rakell.. it's so simple.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.
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Seems like a lot to give up for a 3rd line winger.

Everyone will roast me, but Chi would rather keep the 2 2023 3rd rd picks than take on McGinn and Kapanen. Maybe they take them for keeping the 2 3rds.


I think the 2 3s end up with the 3rd team to help facilitate the deal, I don’t think he’s gonna get a deal worth as much as ppl think, much like Giroux last season, he’s gonna pick a spot or 2 and those teams will use that to their advantage, they’re still getting 2 young NHLers, a bottom 6 guy and a decent prospect plus 3 picks so I think the 2 3s aren’t much worry to them
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.
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So you swap kane with rakell.. it's so simple.


But he was so bad with Carter last year lol, I only say Meh cause they scored a few goals but the underlying numbers were bad
Oct. 19, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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So you swap kane with rakell.. it's so simple.


For you
Oct. 19, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.
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But he was so bad with Carter last year lol, I only say Meh cause they scored a few goals but the underlying numbers were bad


With how much of a long shot it is for pit to get Kane they're gonna wanna sell him on playing top lime minutes with Crosby. Not third line with Carter and heinen. Lol
Oct. 19, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.
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For you


For literally anyone. If you have two of the smartest players in the game you put them together and watch the magic.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
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I give pit a less than zero chance of getting Kane but why wouldn't you put him with Crosby? He'd be the highest IQ player Crosby has ever played with. Could be Kane and panarin all over again.


I agree Kane is not going to Pitt, but what do you think about Toews? I think he would be a way better fit for them and would fill a lot of the teams holes. Made an ACGM of it, let me know what you think?
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3717692
Oct. 19, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.
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I give pit a less than zero chance of getting Kane but why wouldn't you put him with Crosby? He'd be the highest IQ player Crosby has ever played with. Could be Kane and panarin all over again.


Rangers should stay the course and avoid. It’d be great for one year, but losing him for nothing and stunting the development of Laf and Kakko isn’t a great strategy for long term success.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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Ignoring everything else, putting Kane on the third line is just another reason he's not waiving for pit. Pretty insulting actually.


If the pens are in on Kane, it’s to put him on the top line and move Rakell to line 3. I also think if the pens are in the mix, then Kane would be willing to waive for there. And 3rd I think this is a pretty insulting offer for Chicago so unless Kane holds them hostage and/or they just want to do right by the player, I’d say this is a pretty subpar offer for Chicago anyway.
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Oct. 19, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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If the pens are in on Kane, it’s to put him on the top line and move Rakell to line 3. I also think if the pens are in the mix, then Kane would be willing to waive for there. And 3rd I think this is a pretty insulting offer for Chicago so unless Kane holds them hostage and/or they just want to do right by the player, I’d say this is a pretty subpar offer for Chicago anyway.


All I can say is I agree.
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Oct. 19, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.
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Rangers should stay the course and avoid. It’d be great for one year, but losing him for nothing and stunting the development of Laf and Kakko isn’t a great strategy for long term success.


I think he'd sign a little cheaper to stay with panarin in New York. Not a huge discount but maybe 7 mil instead of 8. I also think kakko could be part of the package to get Kane. But all I hear on this site is the rangers will only give up kravtsov and a 2nd for Kane
Oct. 19, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.
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I think he'd sign a little cheaper to stay with panarin in New York. Not a huge discount but maybe 7 mil instead of 8. I also think kakko could be part of the package to get Kane. But all I hear on this site is the rangers will only give up kravtsov and a 2nd for Kane


You tell me how the Rangers sign Laf and Miller and Chytil with Kane on the books for $7 mil. Short answer is they can’t. Miller is going to be expensive and Laf even on a bridge will get $4 mil plus. Chytil most likely will break $4 mil as well. It doesn’t work long term.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 5:00 p.m.
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You tell me how the Rangers sign Laf and Miller and Chytil with Kane on the books for $7 mil. Short answer is they can’t. Miller is going to be expensive and Laf even on a bridge will get $4 mil plus. Chytil most likely will break $4 mil as well. It doesn’t work long term.


A good gm will figure it out. Laf hasn't been impressive at all. A bridge deal shouldn't cost much. Miller should get a decent raise. Hopefully he would take a bridge. Chytil really only performed in the playoffs. Can't see him commanding too much as a 3C either. Trim the fat and you should be good
Oct. 19, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.
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You tell me how the Rangers sign Laf and Miller and Chytil with Kane on the books for $7 mil. Short answer is they can’t. Miller is going to be expensive and Laf even on a bridge will get $4 mil plus. Chytil most likely will break $4 mil as well. It doesn’t work long term.


Look to see if Trouba and Kreider would waive, trade Goodrow.
They have Schneider that can move up to take Trouba’s spot, if Panarin and Laf make 4+ million, then Kreider becomes the odd man out. That contract will suck eventually anyway.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.
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Look to see if Trouba and Kreider would waive, trade Goodrow.
They have Schneider that can move up to take Trouba’s spot, if Panarin and Laf make 4+ million, then Kreider becomes the odd man out. That contract will suck eventually anyway.


Now that’s just ridiculous. Trouba is our captain and Kreider is a top line winger under $7 mil. Both have NMC, why on earth are they going to be willing to waive it? If it costs you Kreider or Trouba on top of what it takes to trade for Kane, that’s a terrible deal for the Rangers.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 9:21 p.m.
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A good gm will figure it out. Laf hasn't been impressive at all. A bridge deal shouldn't cost much. Miller should get a decent raise. Hopefully he would take a bridge. Chytil really only performed in the playoffs. Can't see him commanding too much as a 3C either. Trim the fat and you should be good


Tell me you don’t watch the Rangers without telling me you don’t watch the Rangers. The Rangers would be stupid to trade for or extend Kane. That’s a one way ticket to cap hell and being mediocre with no room to improve the depth of the team. Being top heavy to that extent won’t work. If the cap didn’t exist there wouldn’t be an issue, but that’s not the case.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 10:02 p.m.
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Tell me you don’t watch the Rangers without telling me you don’t watch the Rangers. The Rangers would be stupid to trade for or extend Kane. That’s a one way ticket to cap hell and being mediocre with no room to improve the depth of the team. Being top heavy to that extent won’t work. If the cap didn’t exist there wouldn’t be an issue, but that’s not the case.


Lol what? Kakko and laf are still way under performing. Chytil the same. It's pretty bad when laf lead the 3 of them with 31 points. I'd trade laf and kakko if I were the rangers and had a shot at getting Kane. Trade em while people still think they have 1st round value and while the rest of the team is in their prime competing for a cup.
Oct. 19, 2022 at 11:57 p.m.
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Now that’s just ridiculous. Trouba is our captain and Kreider is a top line winger under $7 mil. Both have NMC, why on earth are they going to be willing to waive it? If it costs you Kreider or Trouba on top of what it takes to trade for Kane, that’s a terrible deal for the Rangers.


Kane >>> Kreider and could be signed to a better contract. You’re trading for Kane then recouping probably most of those assets by trading Kreider and Trouba or Goodrow and Trouba.
They are better to try and trade them when they have value rather than when they are forced to pay 1sts cause their contracts become dog poo. You’re going to have to trade at least one to be able to re-sign Chytil, Laf, Miller, Schneider, Kakko, etc over the next 2-3 years. It’s absolutely an excellent deal. If the rangers were to trade for Kane with retention at the deadline, they go from cup contenders to cup favorites. Then they trade Kreider and Trouba in the offseason for cap space to re-sign Kane and the young guns. Would you rather have Kane and keep your young players or sacrifice at least 1-2 of the young guys for Kreider and Trouba and not get Kane? Option 1 is far superior.
Oct. 20, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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If the pens are in on Kane, it’s to put him on the top line and move Rakell to line 3. I also think if the pens are in the mix, then Kane would be willing to waive for there. And 3rd I think this is a pretty insulting offer for Chicago so unless Kane holds them hostage and/or they just want to do right by the player, I’d say this is a pretty subpar offer for Chicago anyway.


I don’t think the hawks get much more than a 1 a prospect and a mid NHLer, this is a prospect, 2 young NHLers and a mid NHLer and multiple picks, teams don’t overpay for old rentals unless they get a contract done
Oct. 20, 2022 at 7:33 p.m.
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I don’t think the hawks get much more than a 1 a prospect and a mid NHLer, this is a prospect, 2 young NHLers and a mid NHLer and multiple picks, teams don’t overpay for old rentals unless they get a contract done


McGinn is a dump for Chicago. He brings no value outside of just getting them to the cap floor and being a body. Kapanen is a 3rd liner who is kinda old since they are just starting a complete rebuild. POJ would make sense if they didn’t already have 84 LD. Legare is a B-/C+ prospect. It’s more quantity than quality. And Kane isn’t just some old rental. He’s a franchise player still and he’s only 33. So he’s kinda old but not like super old.
I think many teams could beat this offer just cause they’d have better and the right prospects.
 
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