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Created by: Juiceman
Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2022
Published: Nov. 19, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Canucks picks:

1OA: Connor Bedard (C/RW)
12OA: Matthew Wood (RW)
15OA: Andrew Cristall (LW)
16OA: Cameron Allen (RHD)
20OA: Theo Lindstein (LHD)
29OA: Lukas Dragicevic (RHD)

33OA: Michael Hrabal (G)
35OA: Jakub Dvorak (LHD)
47OA: David Reinbacher (RHD)

Taxi Squad = Our rejuvenated prospect pool
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,750,000
2$1,750,000
2$800,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$950,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3$950,000
Wood, Matthew
3$950,000
Cristall, Andrew
3$950,000
Allen, Cameron
3$950,000
Dvorak, Jakub
3$950,000
Reinbacher, David
3$950,000
Hrabal, Michael
3$950,000
Dragicevic, Lukas
3$950,000
Lindstein, Theo
3$950,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Walsh, Reilly [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
  4. 2023 4th round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
17OA
NJD
  1. Demko, Thatcher
Additional Details:
Probably done during the draft assuming Demko bounces back to his normal ELITE form
2.
VAN
  1. Kasper, Marco
  2. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
12OA
DET
  1. Rathbone, Jack
Additional Details:
Horvat 50% retained +extension

Apparently Steve Y likes Horvat. Done during 2023 trade deadline
3.
VAN
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler ($2,000,000 retained)
4.
VAN
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Holmström, Simon
  3. Palmieri, Kyle
  4. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
15OA
5.
VAN
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
16OA
PIT
  1. Miller, J.T.
Additional Details:
Traded before NMC kicks in
6.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
20OA
TOR
    Kuzmenko

    2023 Trade deadline assuming Kuzmenko continues to produce well
    7.
    VAN
    1. 2023 1st round pick (TBL)
    2. 2023 2nd round pick (CHI)
    Additional Details:
    29OA + 33OA
    CHI
    1. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
    Additional Details:
    17OA
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    25$83,500,000$58,322,778$850,000$1,730,000$25,177,222
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $7,350,000$7,350,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Bedard, Connor
    $950,000$950,000
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $883,750$883,750
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $800,000$800,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $762,500$762,500
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $883,750$883,750
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $825,000$825,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $7,850,000$7,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    $950,000$950,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $762,500$762,500
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $786,111$786,111 (Performance Bonus$30,000$30K)
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $775,000$775,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $775,000$775,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    Wood, Matthew
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Cristall, Andrew
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Allen, Cameron
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Lindstein, Theo
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Dragicevic, Lukas
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Dvorak, Jakub
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Reinbacher, David
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Hrabal, Michael
    $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $883,750$883,750 ($0$0$0$0)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $918,333$918,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $833,333$833,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    RW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $816,667$816,667 ($0$0$0$0)
    LW
    RFA - 2

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    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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    Boeser is not of interest for the isles and Palmeri has a NTC so he won’t be moved. The isles are most likely looking at Horvat to play a LW for Barzal and take faceoffs since he is terrible on them.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Boeser is not of interest for the isles and Palmeri has a NTC so he won’t be moved. The isles are most likely looking at Horvat to play a LW for Barzal and take faceoffs since he is terrible on them.


    I don’t think Horvat has ever played lw
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Boeser is not of interest for the isles and Palmeri has a NTC so he won’t be moved. The isles are most likely looking at Horvat to play a LW for Barzal and take faceoffs since he is terrible on them.


    Horvat at LW probably won't fly. As for Palmiere, he has a 16 team NTC. Basically a 50/50 chance that the Canucks are on there
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    I don’t think Horvat has ever played lw


    I would have confidence in him or Nelson playing LW with Barzal and Wahlstrom. They need a LW there as Bailey, Beau, and now Parise is not working on the top line. Plus they need someone who can take faceoffs.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    I would have confidence in him or Nelson playing LW with Barzal and Wahlstrom. They need a LW there as Bailey, Beau, and now Parise is not working on the top line. Plus they need someone who can take faceoffs.


    Horvat has played C for his entire career. There will be teams who acquire Horvat to play C
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Horvat at LW probably won't fly. As for Palmiere, he has a 16 team NTC. Basically a 50/50 chance that the Canucks are on there


    Quoting: Juiceman
    Horvat at LW probably won't fly. As for Palmiere, he has a 16 team NTC. Basically a 50/50 chance that the Canucks are on there


    Was looking at the trade as a deadline move, this would be even worse in the offseason for the isles. Bailey has a friendly buyout so they are not paying to move him they will just buy him out, and still don’t see Palmeri being moved as he has been good.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    I would have confidence in him or Nelson playing LW with Barzal and Wahlstrom. They need a LW there as Bailey, Beau, and now Parise is not working on the top line. Plus they need someone who can take faceoffs.


    Faceoffs do not matter when Barzal is on the ice. He regains possession anyways and he’s more dangerous when the other team wins the faceoff.
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    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Faceoffs do not matter when Barzal is on the ice. He regains possession anyways and he’s more dangerous when the other team wins the faceoff.


    Faceoffs are important, this is why Pageau has to be on PP1 instead of Wahlstrom.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Horvat has played C for his entire career. There will be teams who acquire Horvat to play C


    I’m sure what ever team he goes to (if he is moved) he would be the type of player who plays wherever he is asked too.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Faceoffs are important, this is why Pageau has to be on PP1 instead of Wahlstrom.


    Faceoffs are not important at even strength , we’re not talking about the PP. And Pageau for the most part is a blackhole offensively on the PP. Whatever good he does winning faceoffs he usually negates it by giving up possession when he gets the puck
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    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
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    By what measure has Demko ever been "ELITE"? Nobody is giving so much for an above average goalie, let alone one playing so poorly.
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    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    By what measure has Demko ever been "ELITE"? Nobody is giving so much for an above average goalie, let alone one playing so poorly.


    Lol, he has been a top 10 goalie in the league the past 2 years with basically a bottom 5 defense core. Nice to see some internet trolling
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Faceoffs are not important at even strength , we’re not talking about the PP. And Pageau for the most part is a blackhole offensively on the PP. Whatever good he does winning faceoffs he usually negates it by giving up possession when he gets the puck


    Yea because losing a faceoff and giving up a goal immediately did not mean anything. Faceoffs are a critical part of the game, and lead to possession, every offensive faceoff by Barzal tonight was lost and lead to a clear.
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    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    I’m sure what ever team he goes to (if he is moved) he would be the type of player who plays wherever he is asked too.


    It is extremely difficult to change positions mid season. It’s not Lous style to trade for a player and ask him to play a different position, he also wouldn’t make Nelson switch either
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Yea because losing a faceoff and giving up a goal immediately did not mean anything. Faceoffs are a critical part of the game, and lead to possession, every offensive faceoff by Barzal tonight was lost and lead to a clear.


    Are faceoffs important? Yes. Do faceoffs matter in the big picture? No. The Avs were one of the worst faceoff teams and won the cup. Faceoffs are just one aspect of the game
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    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Lol, he has been a top 10 goalie in the league the past 2 years with basically a bottom 5 defense core. Nice to see some internet trolling


    Trolling? More like poor reading comprehension. I was responding specifically to this from the trade description, emphasis his:

    "Probably done during the draft assuming Demko bounces back to his normal ELITE form"

    I never said Demko wasn't top 10. I asked when he was ever "ELITE".
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Are faceoffs important? Yes. Do faceoffs matter in the big picture? No. The Avs were one of the worst faceoff teams and won the cup. Faceoffs are just one aspect of the game


    Faceoffs mean more to some teams than others. They do matter in the big picture, just not equally for everyone.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Yea because losing a faceoff and giving up a goal immediately did not mean anything. Faceoffs are a critical part of the game, and lead to possession, every offensive faceoff by Barzal tonight was lost and lead to a clear.


    A majority of faceoffs do not lead to goals. The Avs were the 3rd worst Faceoff team in the league last season and were by far the worst in playoffs - and it didn’t matter.

    That is an incorrect statement. There were 2 faceoffs Barzal lost tonight where he forced the D into a turnover, Wahlstrom or Parise recovered any they maintained possession
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Are faceoffs important? Yes. Do faceoffs matter in the big picture? No. The Avs were one of the worst faceoff teams and won the cup. Faceoffs are just one aspect of the game


    Faceoffs matter on the PK and defensive zone draws at the end of games. That’s about it
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Are faceoffs important? Yes. Do faceoffs matter in the big picture? No. The Avs were one of the worst faceoff teams and won the cup. Faceoffs are just one aspect of the game


    When the Isles have the forward core of the 2021 Colorado Avalanche faceoffs will become less important.
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    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    When the Isles have the forward core of the 2021 Colorado Avalanche faceoffs will become less important.


    Of the last 8 NHL teams to lead the league in faceoff %, 5 of them missed the playoffs. If they meant that much, they wouldn’t have missed the playoffs
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    It is extremely difficult to change positions mid season. It’s not Lous style to trade for a player and ask him to play a different position, he also wouldn’t make Nelson switch either


    Horvat is definitely a Lou type guy, more so than Boeser and Garland. I would take any of the prospects right now in Isahakov, Holmstrom or Durandeau to as they need someone to play with Barzal and Wahlstrom.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.
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    Horvat is definitely a Lou type guy, more so than Boeser and Garland. I would take any of the prospects right now in Isahakov, Holmstrom or Durandeau to as they need someone to play with Barzal and Wahlstrom.


    Sure if Horvat was a true Lw he would be interested - Lou is always talking about “the orchestra” in how he builds teams. Trading for horvat would go against his philosophy.

    Bailey needs to be a permanent healthy scratch, they definitely need to call up one of the prospects
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Boeser is not of interest for the isles and Palmeri has a NTC so he won’t be moved. The isles are most likely looking at Horvat to play a LW for Barzal and take faceoffs since he is terrible on them.


    On most teams Horvat would be either 1C or 2C depending on what team he's being traded to, There's no way he's playing LW when most of his career is at center.
    Nov. 19, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Sure if Horvat was a true Lw he would be interested - Lou is always talking about “the orchestra” in how he builds teams. Trading for horvat would go against his philosophy.

    Bailey needs to be a permanent healthy scratch, they definitely need to call up one of the prospects


    Well that is something we can agree on, Bailey has been terrible. Obviously Johnston is not the answer, time for a call up.
     
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