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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 3, 2022
Published: Dec. 4, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Hoffman, Mike
  3. Matheson, Michael
  4. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
  6. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
2.
WPG
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Monahan, Sean ($3,187,500 retained)
  3. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Monahan signs an extension with Winnipeg
3.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. Norlinder, Mattias
  3. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
  4. 2024 7th round pick (EDM)
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 5th round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$75,540,832$1,132,500$5,277,500$6,959,168
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
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$880,833$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:34 a.m.
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we miss leo k
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-I don't think a rebuilding Montreal should be taking on an aging Erik Karlsson, first off, but don't worry - I don't think there's anything in this package that would entice San Jose to make the deal. Armia & Hoffman are negative value cap dumps at this point, I would argue that it would cost *at least* that 2024 2nd to get them off your books (and that's being generous. That means you're basically giving up a pair of 1sts and Mike Matheson for EK65 and Timo Meier - San Jose can probably get better value for Meier on his own without having to trade a resurgent Karlsson. Pass for the Sharks, but Montreal shouldn't be giving up 1sts anyway.

-Why would Winnipeg do this? PLD is better than Monahan and a big reason that they're in playoff position. They already have Josh Morrissey & Brenden Dillon at LD1/LD2, so all adding Edmundson really does is help improve LD3(assume him & Dillon would be LD2/LD3 behind Morrissey.). I don't think that upgrading your bottom pair is worth such a downgrade in your top 6/PP1.

-Nothing in here is really worth a 2nd, IMO. Drouin has been ineffective (0-4-4 in 12 games, hurt *again*), plus Edmonton doesn't have the cap for him. Norlinder is an interesting depth guy but he'd be the 7th/8th best D on the Oilers at best, and probably behind Philip Broberg in terms of prospects.

-Dadonov has 2 goals in 20 games. He's been terrible. I don't think anyone's giving up any sort of positive asset for him when he's going to cost $2.5M - Dallas probably has half a dozen guys on their AHL team that they could call up and get that "production" out of, and they'd all cost $1M or less in cap hit and wouldn't cost an extra draft pick. Dadonov needs to show more signs of life before he has any sort of value.
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
-I don't think a rebuilding Montreal should be taking on an aging Erik Karlsson, first off, but don't worry - I don't think there's anything in this package that would entice San Jose to make the deal. Armia & Hoffman are negative value cap dumps at this point, I would argue that it would cost *at least* that 2024 2nd to get them off your books (and that's being generous. That means you're basically giving up a pair of 1sts and Mike Matheson for EK65 and Timo Meier - San Jose can probably get better value for Meier on his own without having to trade a resurgent Karlsson. Pass for the Sharks, but Montreal shouldn't be giving up 1sts anyway.

-Why would Winnipeg do this? PLD is better than Monahan and a big reason that they're in playoff position. They already have Josh Morrissey & Brenden Dillon at LD1/LD2, so all adding Edmundson really does is help improve LD3(assume him & Dillon would be LD2/LD3 behind Morrissey.). I don't think that upgrading your bottom pair is worth such a downgrade in your top 6/PP1.

-Nothing in here is really worth a 2nd, IMO. Drouin has been ineffective (0-4-4 in 12 games, hurt *again*), plus Edmonton doesn't have the cap for him. Norlinder is an interesting depth guy but he'd be the 7th/8th best D on the Oilers at best, and probably behind Philip Broberg in terms of prospects.

-Dadonov has 2 goals in 20 games. He's been terrible. I don't think anyone's giving up any sort of positive asset for him when he's going to cost $2.5M - Dallas probably has half a dozen guys on their AHL team that they could call up and get that "production" out of, and they'd all cost $1M or less in cap hit and wouldn't cost an extra draft pick. Dadonov needs to show more signs of life before he has any sort of value.


This is the long-winded version of "MTL should do none of this/this will not happen for logical reasons" lol
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
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The Jets are playing well right now, so there is no chance th they move Dubois for a cap dump and a plug.

Although this looks like the daily "Montreal gives up garbage for good players" ACGM.
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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Stars need a second line player. I haven’t watched many Habs games but Dado isn’t producing like a second line player. Seems like he’s washed
Dec. 4, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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This does get Meier and Karlsson.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
The Jets are playing well right now, so there is no chance th they move Dubois for a cap dump and a plug.

Although this looks like the daily "Montreal gives up garbage for good players" ACGM.


Montreal fans typically don’t concern themselves with reality or other teams needs. I’m sure they think they’re doing you a favor considering what most of them perceive Edmundson’s value to be. Also PLuc is gonna demand a trade to Montreal any min now
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
Montreal fans typically don’t concern themselves with reality or other teams needs. I’m sure they think they’re doing you a favor considering what most of them perceive Edmundson’s value to be. Also PLuc is gonna demand a trade to Montreal any min now


Yeah, i find it quite hilarious that many Montreal fans think that 100% pure cap dumps like Hoffman and Armia actually have positive value or that 20 fluke games of Monahan playing light years above his actual level make him a desirable piece. Just no grasp of hockey reality.
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Dec. 4, 2022 at 2:18 p.m.
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Sharks....no this doesn't get two elite players. Oof the trades on here get worse everyday
Dec. 4, 2022 at 2:46 p.m.
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Sharks....no this doesn't get two elite players. Oof the trades on here get worse everyday


Karlsson was a cap dump for the lat 4 years. He's elite this year. He's gonna be a cap dump for the next 4 years.

Team trading for him will make a huge mistake.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 8:29 p.m.
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Sharks....no this doesn't get two elite players. Oof the trades on here get worse everyday


So 3 guys who would pass right through waivers would not get our 2 best players?
Dec. 4, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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BORDEGOD
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So 3 guys who would pass right through waivers would not get our 2 best players?


I know it sounds crazy but I think Grier passes just barely.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:00 p.m.
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BORDEGOD
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Quoting: LIRIK
Karlsson was a cap dump for the lat 4 years. He's elite this year. He's gonna be a cap dump for the next 4 years.

Team trading for him will make a huge mistake.


Completely baseless comment. He had 26 points in 33 games last year before injury and surgery. He hasnt been healthy the previous 3 years either. Do some research before commenting.
Dec. 5, 2022 at 12:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Kjell_Forsman
Completely baseless comment. He had 26 points in 33 games last year before injury and surgery. He hasnt been healthy the previous 3 years either. Do some research before commenting.


Unless SJ retain half his salary, i don't see any team interested. He's not a complete cap dump, but his contract is 5M too high.

He's got good stats, but his defense is really bad. He's never been the player he was in Ottawa since the trade.
Dec. 5, 2022 at 1:03 a.m.
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BORDEGOD
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Quoting: LIRIK
Unless SJ retain half his salary, i don't see any team interested. He's not a complete cap dump, but his contract is 5M too high.

He's got good stats, but his defense is really bad. He's never been the player he was in Ottawa since the trade.


Another senseless comment by you disregarding factual stats. Block.
Dec. 5, 2022 at 1:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Kjell_Forsman
Another senseless comment by you disregarding factual stats. Block.


You're gonna end up alone here if you block people for so little. Enjoy your discussions with people who only think like you.
Dec. 5, 2022 at 11:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Kjell_Forsman
I know it sounds crazy but I think Grier passes just barely.


Grier needs to understand these 3 are on a Canadian team which makes then exponentially more valuable
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