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Trade Deadline Options

Created by: CoachCoach
Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 19, 2022
Published: Dec. 19, 2022
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Just a few possible options of players that I could see moving. Teams and value returned fluctuate, just a rough estimate.

Took Zadina and Fabbri off IR since they are expected back in January.
Trades
1.
DET
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
  2. 2025 4th round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Suter, Pius ($1,625,000 retained)
2.
DET
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
JP balances cap for Edmonton
Xavier adds center prospect
Edmonton keeps 1st round pick
EDM
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler ($2,375,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Kane-McDavid-Drai
Bert-Nuge-Hyman

Edmonton saves cap space and 1st to make additional moves
3.
DET
  1. 2024 4th round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Erne, Adam
Additional Details:
Upgrade to bottom 6
4.
DET
    Could be any playoff team in need of a cheap depth for a mid to late pick or combination in cap dump, etc.

    (Maata / Walman have shown ability on special teams and on second pairing which may boost their value)
    PIT
      I believe one of the following goes:
      Maata (4-6)
      Walman (4-6)
      Oesterle (5-7)
      Hagg (7)
      Buyouts
      Retained Salary Transactions
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2023
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      2024
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      2025
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      25$82,500,000$73,613,889$0$3,857,500$8,886,111
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $2,625,000$2,625,000
      LW
      UFA - 2
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      $6,100,000$6,100,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 1
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      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
      RW, LW
      RFA - 2
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      $2,500,000$2,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
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      $5,625,000$5,625,000
      C, LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
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      $4,750,000$4,750,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
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      $878,333$878,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
      LW, C
      RFA - 3
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      $1,460,000$1,460,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 2
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      $2,750,000$2,750,000
      RW, C
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $925,000$925,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
      C
      RFA - 1
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      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
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      $4,000,000$4,000,000
      LW
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $762,500$762,500
      C, RW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $1,825,000$1,825,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 3
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      $4,750,000$4,750,000
      LD/RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
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      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RD
      RFA - 2
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      $4,750,000$4,750,000
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
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      $1,050,000$1,050,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
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      $4,400,000$4,400,000
      RD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      G
      UFA - 1
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      $2,250,000$2,250,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $850,000$850,000
      RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $750,000$750,000
      G
      UFA - 1
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      $1,350,000$1,350,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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      $850,000$850,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $800,000$800,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $750,000$750,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      Taxi Squad
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
      LD
      RFA - 4

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      Dec. 19, 2022 at 8:55 p.m.
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      Edited Dec. 19, 2022 at 9:03 p.m.
      Detroit passes.

      Yzerman is looking at 2023 picks, Not picks that are 2-3 years down the road.

      If that's the kind of return we get for Bertuzzi, We might as well just keep him and sign him to a 3 x $5,500,000 deal. Because that offer is awful.
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      Dec. 19, 2022 at 9:20 p.m.
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      Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
      Detroit passes.

      Yzerman is looking at 2023 picks, Not picks that are 2-3 years down the road.

      If that's the kind of return we get for Bertuzzi, We might as well just keep him and sign him to a 3 x $5,500,000 deal. Because that offer is awful.


      Opinion noted but I think Bourgault is a pretty good returning piece. JP is a low risk high reward type of guy. A second is nice.
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      Dec. 19, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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      Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
      Detroit passes.

      Yzerman is looking at 2023 picks, Not picks that are 2-3 years down the road.


      This is with teams that could use these assets and assuming that the teams involved in these trades don't make other moves. Unfair of me to say, "just move this guy or flip that guy."

      Would you rather have:
      1) Suter re-signed
      2) Suter gone for nothing
      3) MIN 2023 4th
      4) MIN 2024 3rd and MIN 2025 4th
      Wild don't have their 3rd this year
      - If another team had interest in Suter for a 3rd this season, great, take that instead.

      1) Erne re-signed
      2) Erne gone for nothing
      3) 2024 4th
      Could SY snag a 4th this season? Maybe, but which team? Feel free to chime in.
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 9:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      Opinion noted but I think Bourgault is a pretty good returning piece. JP is a low risk high reward type of guy. A second is nice.


      Depending on how Bertuzzi looks when he gets back, I was debating on a 1st instead of a 2nd. Hard to justify a team spending a 1st, and honestly if the right offer isn't there I would hope SY signs him to a "prove it" deal for less term.
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      Dec. 19, 2022 at 9:45 p.m.
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      Opinion noted but I think Bourgault is a pretty good returning piece. JP is a low risk high reward type of guy. A second is nice.


      I mean Bourgault is a nice piece, Though not as good as what we have in our pipeline.
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 9:50 p.m.
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      Quoting: CoachCoach
      This is with teams that could use these assets and assuming that the teams involved in these trades don't make other moves. Unfair of me to say, "just move this guy or flip that guy."

      Would you rather have:
      1) Suter re-signed
      2) Suter gone for nothing
      3) MIN 2023 4th
      4) MIN 2024 3rd and MIN 2025 4th
      Wild don't have their 3rd this year
      - If another team had interest in Suter for a 3rd this season, great, take that instead.

      1) Erne re-signed
      2) Erne gone for nothing
      3) 2024 4th
      Could SY snag a 4th this season? Maybe, but which team? Feel free to chime in.


      Bottom line Yzerman has already said that he wants to build on our 2023 picks, So he's not taking picks that're still 2-3 drafts down the road
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 10:00 p.m.
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      Ignore -- commented in wrong post
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 10:27 p.m.
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      - Poor return for Bertuzzi
      - Maata needs to be extended

      The rest looks fine and short of nitpicking, is probably pretty close
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 10:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: DeadWingsv2
      - Poor return for Bertuzzi
      - Maata needs to be extended

      The rest looks fine and short of nitpicking, is probably pretty close


      Quoting: DeadWingsv2
      - Poor return for Bertuzzi
      - Maata needs to be extended

      The rest looks fine and short of nitpicking, is probably pretty close


      Bertuzzi was the toughest one to figure out. Realistically, only a handful of teams would want to take the chance, or could afford him unless it was a big overpay (not saying it couldn't happen). I would just hate to lose him for nothing.
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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      None of these are crazy, I like poolparty personally it's just his contract makes trading for him tricky. Berts tough to value at this point.
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      Dec. 19, 2022 at 10:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: CoachCoach
      Bertuzzi was the toughest one to figure out. Realistically, only a handful of teams would want to take the chance, or could afford him unless it was a big overpay (not saying it couldn't happen). I would just hate to lose him for nothing.

      Someone will overpay, they always do... with that said, even "fair" value is a 1st and good prospect. It all obviously depends if an extension is part of the deal, but I think they'll get a very big return.
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      Dec. 19, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jfstompers
      None of these are crazy, I like poolparty personally it's just his contract makes trading for him tricky. Berts tough to value at this point.


      Yeah I wish that contract was more along the lines of Zadina, but it appears he is due for a slight down tick in pay on a bridge contract which could be worth a gamble.
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 11:11 p.m.
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      Quoting: DeadWingsv2
      Someone will overpay, they always do... with that said, even "fair" value is a 1st and good prospect. It all obviously depends if an extension is part of the deal, but I think they'll get a very big return.


      I would be all for it. I originally had Holloway and a 2nd but I don't think EDM wants to part with him.
      Dec. 19, 2022 at 11:12 p.m.
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      I would be all for it. I originally had Holloway and a 2nd but I don't think EDM wants to part with him.

      They might not want to, but it will cost Holloway AND a 1st if they want him. Yzerman is not going to settle for a low ball offer. He'll get his pieces.
      Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:40 a.m.
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      I wouldn’t be thrilled if all of this happened this way, but I wouldn’t be pissed either.

      I would be satisfied with a 1st round pick or the equivalent of in return for Bert and I think this trade accomplishes that.

      I also think we have several other pieces that teams will come calling for at the deadline, Sundkvist will be hot, Maatta too. I also think there is a good probability we will hear reports that Stevie declined trade offers for Perron at the deadline.

      Circling back to Bertuzzi though, I have a strong feeling that regardless of where he is traded to, he is most likely to test free agency and choose his team in 2023-24. And that could potentially be back in Detroit.
      Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:42 a.m.
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      Quoting: DeadWingsv2
      They might not want to, but it will cost Holloway AND a 1st if they want him. Yzerman is not going to settle for a low ball offer. He'll get his pieces.


      Quoting: CoachCoach
      I would be all for it. I originally had Holloway and a 2nd but I don't think EDM wants to part with him.

      If I had to guess or make a prediction on what the return will be for Bertuzzi - I think it will be a really good prospect and a 2nd round pick. Like an A- or solid B+ guy.
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      If I had to guess or make a prediction on what the return will be for Bertuzzi - I think it will be a really good prospect and a 2nd round pick. Like an A- or solid B+ guy.

      I just don't see Yzerman selling low. I think he'll either be re-signed or an extension will be part of the trade and drive up value. The only thing I think is
      certain, is that when all is said and done, everyone is going to be shocked.
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      Quoting: DeadWingsv2
      I just don't see Yzerman selling low. I think he'll either be re-signed or an extension will be part of the trade and drive up value. The only thing I think is
      certain, is that when all is said and done, everyone is going to be shocked.


      Shocked, how? Shocked at how much we get for him ?
      Dec. 20, 2022 at 2:12 a.m.
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      Shocked, how? Shocked at how much we get for him ?

      Shocked on where he went, for how much, an extension that was signed, a rare 7 team trade, who knows... it's Yzerman.
      Dec. 20, 2022 at 2:14 a.m.
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      Quoting: CoachCoach
      Yeah I wish that contract was more along the lines of Zadina, but it appears he is due for a slight down tick in pay on a bridge contract which could be worth a gamble.


      Well his qualifying offer is too high for his value so if he wants to be a ufa then he just digs in and doesn't negotiate. I doubt we qualify him at what he'd cost. I'm not sure if he's arbitration eligible.
      Dec. 20, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
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      Quoting: CoachCoach
      I would be all for it. I originally had Holloway and a 2nd but I don't think EDM wants to part with him.


      Late round 2nd is meh. Maybe Holloway and 2023 1st, for Bert and 2023 3rd.
       
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