Horvat to Colorado

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Created by: Brooks_Makar

Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2023

Published: Jan. 5, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Vancouver fans are pretty confident Colorado can re-sign Horvat after trading for him. Colorado fans don't believe this is the case. This trade addresses Colorado's concerns and gets Vancouver their asking price.

Trades

COL

Horvat, Bo ($2,750,000 retained)
2024 1st round pick (VAN)
2025 1st round pick (VAN)
2025 2nd round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

All picks are conditional on Horvat re-signing with Colorado

VAN

Byram, Bowen
Ranta, Sampo
2023 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Johnson, Jack

CHI

2024 6th round pick (COL)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$82,500,000	$80,470,833	$25,000	$850,000	$2,029,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lehkonen, Artturi $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	MacKinnon, Nathan $6,300,000$6,300,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Rantanen, Mikko $9,250,000$9,250,000 RW, C UFA - 3
Landeskog, Gabriel $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 7	Horvat, Bo $1,375,000$1,375,000 C UFA - 1	Nichushkin, Valeri $6,125,000$6,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 8
Rodrigues, Evan $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Newhook, Alex $908,333$908,333 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 1
	Helm, Darren $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	O'Connor, Logan $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Cogliano, Andrew $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Toews, Devon $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD UFA - 2	Makar, Cale $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 5	Georgiev, Alexandar $3,400,000$3,400,000 G UFA - 3
Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 5	Manson, Josh $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 4	Francouz, Pavel $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 2
Johnson, Jack $950,000$950,000 LD UFA - 1	Johnson, Erik $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
MacDermid, Kurtis $987,500$987,500 LD/RD, LW UFA - 2

Jan. 5, 2023 at 11:46 a.m.

DangleCat

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Re-signing conditions are no longer allowed in the CBA I think.

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Jan. 5, 2023 at 11:46 a.m.

AK50

JT Miller for Hart

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What is that trade??? (Horvat)

Jan. 5, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.

mbaer84

matt

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Quoting: DangleCat

Re-signing conditions are no longer allowed in the CBA I think.

yeah its not allowed anymore

Jan. 5, 2023 at 11:53 a.m.

ArakinSkywalker

Dr.

Joined: May 2019

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i mean if you ship out byram that clears ~4mil so it makes it easier to resign horvat but is it worth it. When byram is healthy the guys a stud, probily a top 2 dman on 95% of teams in another year or two and we'd be trading him for a top6 center and a first. I think byram will have a bigger contribution to this team long term than horvat so i don't think i'd do it.

Jan. 5, 2023 at 11:53 a.m.

Brooks_Makar

Thread Starter

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Quoting: DangleCat

Re-signing conditions are no longer allowed in the CBA I think.

Learn something new every day

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Jan. 5, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Others have mentioned the no picks for resigning deal, but Colorado GETS picks for resigning Horvat? Lol, Vancouver would be better off letting him walk to ufa than giving up 2 firsts

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Jan. 5, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.

Brooks_Makar

Thread Starter

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Others have mentioned the no picks for resigning deal, but Colorado GETS picks for resigning Horvat? Lol, Vancouver would be better off letting him walk to ufa than giving up 2 firsts

Other way around. Colorado gets the picks if Horvat walks. I'll edit to make it less confusing.

Jan. 5, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: Champarado

Other way around. Colorado gets the picks if Horvat walks. I'll edit to make it less confusing.

Vancouver obviously doesn't trade him then. Trading firsts while rebuilding is horrible

Jan. 5, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.

Dr_Invictus

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Quoting: Champarado

Other way around. Colorado gets the picks if Horvat walks. I'll edit to make it less confusing.

Even if conditional signing picks were still allowed, there is zero chance Vancouver would take this deal: there are no shortages of teams who would want to add Horvat. If picks and prospects are coming back, they simply retain and take the best deal possible. This trade exposes them to losing out on the deal if Horvat doesn't resign. Any GM who took this would be fired.

Also, Colorado cannot afford to resign Horvat. McKinnon's extension kicks in next year.

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Jan. 5, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.

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MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

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I can't see Sakic trading Byram.

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Jan. 5, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.

#11

TJTwolf

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Still an easy no for both teams.

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