Quoting: kerism
So, you want good returns for bad players, but don't want to trade one of the few valuable trade chips. Got it.
Bertuzzi is the only other player that could be traded for a good return, and Leafs fans seem to think he's not even worth a middle pair defenseman.
If you're expecting to get anything more than a mid-late round pick for Suter, Sundqvist, Erne, etc. you're going to be sorely disappointed come trade deadline.
Nope, I don't expect to get more than players are worth, I expect not to get dog**** picks that aren't even worth acquiring, while giving away assets for less than they're worth
- Leafs fans are delusional. Using their values as a basis is like using the opinion of a flat-earther's view on land curvature. Bert will return at LEAST 1 A+/A level asset and at least one additional A/A- level asset as a rental. If an extension is part of the deal, even more. Kerfoot is a cap dump, Liljegren would be buried on the depth chart behind Seider and Hronek and makes ZERO sense here (nor do I think Toronto would be willing to move him, so the fit makes even less sense) and a 3rd is an average asset at best. Toronto is HIGHLY unlikely to be a trade partner for Bertuzzi, as they are unlikely to pay what he would cost.
- Might as well just keep Suter down the stretch, rather than get a garbage 6th.
- There is zero incentive to trade Lindstrom, so adding him to that trade makes no sense. I actually don't have an issue with a 4th for Sunny straight up, but wouldn't be surprised if he returned a 3rd alone.
- Edmonton deal never even happens. Value on that one is actually fine, but basis is flawed.
- Vrana deal makes zero sense, both ways. Detroit is selling low and he's not a fit in Minnesota, especially with retaining for a season+. The gamble of holding onto him with hopes that his stock goes up is the right course of action. It's a gamble worth taking.
They should be looking to move Erne for a late pick and possibly Walman for a mid pick if they can't work out an extension.
Your proposed trades are just bad asset management.