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Competitive rebuild

Created by: Isles10
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2023
Published: Jan. 10, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$859,000
3$859,000
2$859,000
3$859,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
1$825,000
3$2,500,000
3$850,000
8$8,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$775,000
3$850,000
3$2,500,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Olausson, Oskar
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
2.
3.
NYI
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. Bailey, Josh
    2. 2023 3rd round pick (NYI)
    3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
    Additional Details:
    The 2023 3rd is for the conditions in the Andrew Ladd trade…
    4.
    NYI
    1. Meier, Timo [RFA Rights]
    SJS
    1. Dufour, William
    2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
    Additional Details:
    Trade made at the draft (the pick is 15th overall)
    5.
    NYI
    1. Barrie, Tyson
    2. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
    3. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
    EDM
      Scott Mayfield (50% at the TDL), he extends with Edmonton.
      6.
      NYI
      1. Grans, Helge
      2. Petersen, Cal ($1,000,000 retained)
      3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
      4. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
      LAK
      1. Wilde, Bode [RFA Rights]
      Additional Details:
      Semyon Varlamov (50% retained at the TDL).
      7.
      NYI
      1. 2023 3rd round pick (TBL)
      2. 2024 4th round pick (CHI)
      TBL
        Zach Parise at the TDL.
        Buyouts
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        2023
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        2024
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        2025
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        22$83,500,000$83,025,000$0$82,500$475,000

        Roster

        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        $8,500,000$8,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 8
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        $9,150,000$9,150,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $7,000,000$7,000,000
        LW
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $7,350,000$7,350,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $863,333$863,333
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $4,150,000$4,150,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $836,667$836,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        C
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        RW, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        C
        UFA - 4
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        $850,000$850,000
        RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $5,750,000$5,750,000
        LD
        NTC
        UFA - 6
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $6,150,000$6,150,000
        RD
        NTC
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        LD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $4,500,000$4,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $850,000$850,000
        LD
        UFA - 1
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $1,750,000$1,750,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $825,000$825,000
        LD
        UFA - 1

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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
        #26
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Just because Olausson is the Avs best prospect doesn’t make him any better compared to other prospects, he’s definitely a B-prospect.


        People called Holmstrom a B prospect for the same reason Olausson gets called a B prospect. I don’t think either assessment is correct.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        One team would have a strong d, and one team would have strong centers. Just creates a new problem for each organization. Vancouver’s forward core is too old as it is….


        Agree to disagree, I would do that trade every day.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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        Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
        islanders decline easily lol what. Islanders only consider if they take out Dobson


        You really think the Isles would be able to get Pettersson for Pageau, an okay prospect, and a late 1st? Even with Dobson this isn’t enough
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:26 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        People called Holmstrom a B prospect for the same reason Olausson gets called a B prospect. I don’t think either assessment is correct.


        Then what is the correct assessment in your opinion? Olausson and Holmström is a weird comparison to begin with, they are very different players, I still think Holmström is a B-prospect, doesn’t mean he can’t become a good top-9, maybe even top-6 forward.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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        Quoting: mv21227
        You really think the Isles would be able to get Pettersson for Pageau, an okay prospect, and a late 1st? Even with Dobson this isn’t enough


        Pettersson isn’t worth more than Dobson imo. Maybe Pettersson is worth more, but not a significant amount.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        Pettersson isn’t worth more than Dobson imo. Maybe Pettersson is worth more, but not a significant amount.


        Then I don’t know what to tell you honestly.. Dobson could very well become one of the consistently best defensemen in the league, sure, but Pettersson is already, as a C, one of the best players, period..
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Then what is the correct assessment in your opinion? Olausson and Holmström is a weird comparison to begin with, they are very different players, I still think Holmström is a B-prospect, doesn’t mean he can’t become a good top-9, maybe even top-6 forward.


        They r both Swedish and started in the AHL early. Both play their off side wing, and they are right around the same height and build. Idk how similar they are outside of that, but it’s not a terrible comp.

        The other reason I made the comp was because the isles and Colorado have “weaker” prospect pools. That’s the main reason I made the comparison.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Then I don’t know what to tell you honestly.. Dobson could very well become one of the consistently best defensemen in the league, sure, but Pettersson is already, as a C, one of the best players, period..


        Pettersson is fantastic lol. Nobody is denying that. Ur just criminally underrating Dobson.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        Pettersson is fantastic lol. Nobody is denying that. Ur just criminally underrating Dobson.


        No I don’t think I do actually, I love Dobson and wouldn’t trade him for more than maybe 5-10 players in the league, I just think Pettersson is worth it and Canucks is the only team I can think of where a blockbuster like this could make sense..
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Assuming Nelson even waives for Denver, it's a Late first in a deep draft and a prospect in a very bare pool who can (in a few years) play a role on an ELC. Nelson is good but expensive and signed till he's 34 at over 5 mil aav. Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan for half the price or give Newhook another shot instead.

        Eat some salary and maybe they accept


        Nelson is a 1st line center signed till his age 33* season, he's an 7-7.5 mill dollar player being paid 6 mill. Thats not expensive, it's a bargain
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Then I don’t know what to tell you honestly.. Dobson could very well become one of the consistently best defensemen in the league, sure, but Pettersson is already, as a C, one of the best players, period..


        He’s a fifty point d man who can put the puck in the back of the next and he drives possession well. Isles offense has been better under Lambert, but everyone’s numbers are negatively impacted by the fact the isles don’t have a top line winger.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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        Quoting: Db1899
        Nelson is a 1st line center signed till his age 33* season, he's an 7-7.5 mill dollar player being paid 6 mill. Thats not expensive, it's a bargain


        They basically want to trade Nelson, Dobson and picks for Pettersson. Brilliant. 🙄😂
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        Pettersson isn’t worth more than Dobson imo. Maybe Pettersson is worth more, but not a significant amount.


        Dobson is an amazing player, but Pettersson has been a top 5-10 C this year. He’s 5th in the league in 5V5 points, and 1st in 5V5 points per 60 among players with more than 10 GP. He’s also amazing defensively. It would take two 1sts on top of Dobson for the Canucks to even consider moving him
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        They r both Swedish and started in the AHL early. Both play their off side wing, and they are right around the same height and build. Idk how similar they are outside of that, but it’s not a terrible comp.

        The other reason I made the comp was because the isles and Colorado have “weaker” prospect pools. That’s the main reason I made the comparison.


        Holmstrom's value comes from the fact that hell be cheap for the next 3-4 years. His most likely outcome Is a good 3rd line two way winger or the 3rd best player on a 2nd line.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        They basically want to trade Nelson, Dobson and picks for Pettersson. Brilliant. 🙄😂


        You're getting a 1st and an NHL ready prospect for nelson. It's not a bad trade.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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        Quoting: Db1899
        You're getting a 1st and an NHL ready prospect for nelson. It's not a bad trade.


        It’s not great either. Especially considering where that first would land.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        They r both Swedish and started in the AHL early. Both play their off side wing, and they are right around the same height and build. Idk how similar they are outside of that, but it’s not a terrible comp.

        The other reason I made the comp was because the isles and Colorado have “weaker” prospect pools. That’s the main reason I made the comparison.


        ”They are both Swedish” sorry but that is absolutely and completely irrelevant for this conversation, I am Swedish as well, doesn’t say much. They are very different players, I’ve watched them since they both was 16-17 yo.. yeah but weaker prospect pools and the assessment of the player has no correlation in a discussion of their potential, no way Olausson or Holmström is A-prospects…
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.
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        Quoting: Db1899
        Holmstrom's value comes from the fact that hell be cheap for the next 3-4 years. His most likely outcome Is a good 3rd line two way winger or the 3rd best player on a 2nd line.


        And I’m perfectly happy with that tbh. I think he has a chance to exceed those expectations because of the fact he’s getting ice time with Barzy rn. Should he be? No. But I think playing with a guy like that can only help ur development.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        It’s not great either. Especially considering where that first would land.


        the isles aren't contending this year or next so trading nelson to shake up the country club Is actually a good idea. If olausson becomes a 2nd line winger and the isles land a 2nd line wing/center with that 1st (its a very deep draft) thats a huge win for the isles
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        ”They are both Swedish” sorry but that is absolutely and completely irrelevant for this conversation, I am Swedish as well, doesn’t say much. They are very different players, I’ve watched them since they both was 16-17 yo.. yeah but weaker prospect pools and the assessment of the player has no correlation in a discussion of their potential, no way Olausson or Holmström is A-prospects…


        I mean the fact they r Swedish absolutely has an impact. You’re coming from an entirely different country to play in the states as a teenager. You play on Olympic ice, the style of play is different, etc. I know guys who are from there and came to play juniors in the US. They all tell me it’s a major factor and I take their word for it. Considering the fact you are from Sweden I’m surprised you disagree.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        And I’m perfectly happy with that tbh. I think he has a chance to exceed those expectations because of the fact he’s getting ice time with Barzy rn. Should he be? No. But I think playing with a guy like that can only help ur development.


        he doesn't have any high end tools so I doubt it, he's just a good all around player. I'd be thrilled if he became a 2nd line F
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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        Quoting: Db1899
        the isles aren't contending this year or next so trading nelson to shake up the country club Is actually a good idea. If olausson becomes a 2nd line winger and the isles land a 2nd line wing/center with that 1st (its a very deep draft) thats a huge win for the isles


        U have a good point there. You think Olausson will be a second liner?
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
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        Quoting: Db1899
        he doesn't have any high end tools so I doubt it, he's just a good all around player. I'd be thrilled if he became a 2nd line F


        I think he has underrated skill tbh, and he’s got a nice shot. I think he can be a 20-20 guy who plays a good 200 foot game. The best I’m hoping for is Niederreiter.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        And I’m perfectly happy with that tbh. I think he has a chance to exceed those expectations because of the fact he’s getting ice time with Barzy rn. Should he be? No. But I think playing with a guy like that can only help ur development.


        He still isn’t a A-prospect which is why we are even discussing Holmström..
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
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        Quoting: mv21227
        Dobson is an amazing player, but Pettersson has been a top 5-10 C this year. He’s 5th in the league in 5V5 points, and 1st in 5V5 points per 60 among players with more than 10 GP. He’s also amazing defensively. It would take two 1sts on top of Dobson for the Canucks to even consider moving him


        That’s an obscene asking price imo. Then again if you offered Hughes for Barzal I’d probably say the same thing.
         
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