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If Im GM at TDL

Created by: Hammerwise
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 13, 2023
Published: Jan. 13, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Just desperate to offload some of the misfit toys and create cap space for 23-24

Just taking a guess at who could be moved and for what, but theres guys like Hoffman and Armia who I see as having almost or real negative value and guys like byron/gallagher who probably cost too much to move.

But mostly trying to find fits on other teams and approx trade values
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
TOR
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
2.
LAK
  1. Edmundson, Joel
Additional Details:
cap dump for cap dump, diff in salary is Thomas
3.
PHI
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. 2023 5th round pick (CGY)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (MTL)
4.
MTL
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
5.
MTL
  1. 2025 5th round pick (CGY)
6.
MTL
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis
  2. 2024 5th round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Fairbrother, Gianni
  2. Monahan, Sean ($3,175,000 retained)
  3. Wideman, Chris
  4. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
28$82,500,000$70,832,499$1,132,500$8,587,500$11,667,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$800,000$800,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 3

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Jan. 13, 2023 at 7:52 a.m.
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Leafs going to Leafs
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You're forgetting Dach in the Leafs trade
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 7:55 a.m.
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This is an atrocious joke, troll.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 7:56 a.m.
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You can keep Dvorak. Frost is younger, better, cheaper...the trifecta
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 8:00 a.m.
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Go Habs Go
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Why? As long as Price is out we are fine cap wise. Half the guys you're moving are gone at the end of the year regardless. The rest we're in no rush to move and can wait until their final contract year to sell them off.
Then you added Faksa, which contradicts your premise. Just keep Dvorak.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 8:08 a.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Why? As long as Price is out we are fine cap wise. Half the guys you're moving are gone at the end of the year regardless. The rest we're in no rush to move and can wait until their final contract year to sell them off.
Then you added Faksa, which contradicts your premise. Just keep Dvorak.


But instead of eating those UFAs, there is some return here.

And then theres the movement of guys like hoffman, edmundson, dvorak who have multiple years left but should be moved to play youth/find a better fit.

You cant tell me MTL is better off by not moving dandanov, drouin, hoffman, etc... even for middling return

As far as dvorak over faksa, I agree, but its Frost and Faksa over dvorak. Dvorak has 3 yrs left and is not what we thought, faksa might be a bad investment but he comes with a 2nd, and it might work from a DAL perspective
Jan. 13, 2023 at 8:30 a.m.
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Habs fan here... But you lost me at Dadonov for a 3rd. We would have to retain 50% and PAY a 3rd at this point
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 8:39 a.m.
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Go Habs Go
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Why trade for Frost, we have Beck and Riley coming up
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 9:11 a.m.
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True Reverse Retro
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With the Stars not having a 1st Round Pick, they aren't trading their 2nd Round Pick in a cap dump for cap dump swap
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
But instead of eating those UFAs, there is some return here.

And then theres the movement of guys like hoffman, edmundson, dvorak who have multiple years left but should be moved to play youth/find a better fit.

You cant tell me MTL is better off by not moving dandanov, drouin, hoffman, etc... even for middling return

As far as dvorak over faksa, I agree, but its Frost and Faksa over dvorak. Dvorak has 3 yrs left and is not what we thought, faksa might be a bad investment but he comes with a 2nd, and it might work from a DAL perspective


Dvorak and Evans are good for developing youth. They take some of the more difficult minutes and responsibilities to ease other players into the lineup. Dvorak may not be what we thought, but he's still a good two-way 3C and faceoff man. Frost is the opposite. We need Dvorak more right now.

I'm fine with the rest leaving. We aren't getting much of anything for Dadonov, Drouin, and Hoffman, so I wouldn't complain regardless of the return, as long as we aren't taking back bad contracts with any term on them. Those are the guys that need to go to make room for youth.
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Jan. 13, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
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Once a Kings Fan Too
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I can't see your team trading the better of their two 2023 thirds for Dadonov, even half retained.

The Edmundson trade is defensible on value, but Madden is a sufficiently good prospect that we'd insist on Montreal retaining 50% on Edmundson.
 
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