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Bruins and Bo wont work

Created by: Pasta88_
Team: 2023-24 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 28, 2023
Published: Jan. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Accounting for a $1,000,000 cap increase and the Bergeron and Krejci bonuses, Its next to impossible to make it work with Horvat and Pasta.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,750,000
2$800,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$12,000,000
8$9,000,000
2$1,200,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,800,000
Trades
1.
BOS
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. Reilly, Mike
    2. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
    2.
    BOS
      For Horvat at 22-23 TDL
      VAN
      1. Lysell, Fabian
      2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
      3.
      BOS
      1. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
      4.
      BOS
      1. 2023 2nd round pick (WPG)
      2. 2024 3rd round pick (SEA)
      5.
      BOS
        Team doesnt matter much here, just using it as an example
        OTT
        1. Coyle, Charlie
        2. 2023 2nd round pick (WPG)
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2023
        Logo of the LAK
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the LAK
        2024
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the SEA
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        2025
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        Logo of the BOS
        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        22$79,000,000$83,411,667$4,500,000$82,500-$4,411,667
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $6,125,000$6,125,000
        LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        $9,000,000$9,000,000
        C
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        $1,200,000$1,200,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $4,750,000$4,750,000
        C, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $12,000,000$12,000,000
        RW
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $925,000$925,000
        LW
        RFA - 2
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $762,500$762,500
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $836,667$836,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        C
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $925,000$925,000
        C
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $800,000$800,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        LD
        NTC, NMC
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $9,500,000$9,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        LD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $4,100,000$4,100,000
        RD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $2,750,000$2,750,000
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $1,137,500$1,137,500
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $1,800,000$1,800,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Boston Bruins
        $800,000$800,000
        LD
        UFA - 2

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        Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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        Exactly. But there will still be hundred+ posts til he’s actually traded from the same 10 people who just can’t handle reality. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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        Jan. 28, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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        Quoting: Gofnut999
        Exactly. But there will still be hundred+ posts til he’s actually traded from the same 10 people who just can’t handle reality. 🤷🏻‍♂️


        Like we all want it to work. But it’s impossible. If it was one year later, it would work, with a larger jump in cap and the bonuses off the books. But JDB is also do for a contract then.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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        Yup, bang on. That's why I don't understand how so many people (even NHL writers) think Horvat to BOS makes "so much sense". It literally can't work.
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        Jan. 28, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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        It can work as a rental
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.
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        Coyle has an 8 team no-trade list and 3 years remaining with a $5.25M cap hit.
        You can't just say it doesn't matter which team when very few would want to take 3 seasons of that cap hit (especially in 23-24) when the rest of your line up hinges on that money.
        I'd say the team you imagine moving to matters very much and OTT doesn't have the cap space next season to do this deal.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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        Quoting: TCMonkey
        Coyle has an 8 team no-trade list and 3 years remaining with a $5.25M cap hit.
        You can't just say it doesn't matter which team when very few would want to take 3 seasons of that cap hit (especially in 23-24) when the rest of your line up hinges on that money.
        I'd say the team you imagine moving to matters very much and OTT doesn't have the cap space next season to do this deal.


        I’m aware of that. But for the purpose of the exercise to show that the Bruins can’t fit Bo Horvat, I don’t think it matters what team is used here, especially as we don’t know what his No Trade List has on it.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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        Is that what Pasta’s going to get? I think he’s really good but not 12mill worth.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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        agreed, boston doesnt really have the assets to pull it off either imo
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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        Quoting: JohnJohnson
        It can work as a rental


        Ya, if you don’t look it that their roster. There is no need or room for a center.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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        Quoting: BenningTruther
        agreed, boston doesnt really have the assets to pull it off either imo

        First and lysell. Done. Horvat isn’t re-shaping the deadline market.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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        Quoting: TCMonkey
        Coyle has an 8 team no-trade list and 3 years remaining with a $5.25M cap hit.
        You can't just say it doesn't matter which team when very few would want to take 3 seasons of that cap hit (especially in 23-24) when the rest of your line up hinges on that money.
        I'd say the team you imagine moving to matters very much and OTT doesn't have the cap space next season to do this deal.

        You really missed the point of this.
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        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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        Quoting: DefenseFirst
        First and lysell. Done. Horvat isn’t re-shaping the deadline market.


        an extremly late first most likely, and dont get me wrong lysell is great but the last thing the canucks need is a winger prospect. there will be a better package
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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        Quoting: NV94
        Is that what Pasta’s going to get? I think he’s really good but not 12mill worth.

        Pastrnak should be the highest paid player in the league next year (though he won’t be). The NHL has the weird thing that no other sport has where they set benchmarks. For example “well, he shouldn’t get more than mcdavid.” Why not? McDavid signed his deal in like 2017 when the cap was $73M or whatever, and was off his ELC. That said, Boston has their culture. I know that they had agreed on a $10M AAV around thanksgiving, and were working on other elements of the contract, but things have changed since then. All of a sudden he has 37 goals (shoutout to everyone who took pastrnak over 39.5 goals for piles).

        11x8 makes too much sense too me. I think that’s where they land.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.
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        Quoting: BenningTruther
        an extremly late first most likely, and dont get me wrong lysell is great but the last thing the canucks need is a winger prospect. there will be a better package

        Like what? Ones that re-shape the deadline market.

        Hey guess what kind of teams are looking to move first round picks for rentals? Did you say good teams? Well done, that’s correct. Where do good teams draft? Bingo, late. All firsts moved for rentals are pretty late. Frankly, Lysell and a first might be significantly better than any offer they get - too bad they’re not going to get that offer.

        Also, vancouver needs organizational help at every single position. Why wouldn’t they need a winger?
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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        Quoting: DefenseFirst
        Like what? Ones that re-shape the deadline market.

        Hey guess what kind of teams are looking to move first round picks for rentals? Did you say good teams? Well done, that’s correct. Where do good teams draft? Bingo, late. All firsts moved for rentals are pretty late. Frankly, Lysell and a first might be significantly better than any offer they get - too bad they’re not going to get that offer.

        Also, vancouver needs organizational help at every single position. Why wouldn’t they need a winger?


        thre could be a million other package out there that better suit the canucks needs, the bruins just dont have the assets. teams have multiple 2nds or good RHD/C prospects will be of way more value to the canucks. canucks are not gonna trade Bo for a winger as the main piece coming back.

        Hoglander,Podkolzin,Klimovich,Karlsson are like the canucks only good prospects and they are all wingers
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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        Quoting: BenningTruther
        thre could be a million other package out there that better suit the canucks needs, the bruins just dont have the assets. teams have multiple 2nds or good RHD/C prospects will be of way more value to the canucks. canucks are not gonna trade Bo for a winger as the main piece coming back.

        Hoglander,Podkolzin,Klimovich,Karlsson are like the canucks only good prospects and they are all wingers


        Are we still calling hoglander a prospect? 22 and been given three seasons in the NHL, and it hasn’t worked. Podkolzin - same thing just one year behind. Klimovich….i mean, whatever. Who is Karlsson?

        If the canucks are turning down offers because of those four players, every single member of the front office should be fired today.
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        Jan. 28, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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        Quoting: JohnJohnson
        It can work as a rental


        Not needed as a rental.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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        Quoting: DefenseFirst
        Are we still calling hoglander a prospect? 22 and been given three seasons in the NHL, and it hasn’t worked. Podkolzin - same thing just one year behind. Klimovich….i mean, whatever. Who is Karlsson?

        If the canucks are turning down offers because of those four players, every single member of the front office should be fired today.


        if the canucks traded their most valuable asset for a winger they should all be fired today. those 4 plus Miller, Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Boeser and Garland a winger is the last thing they need. There will be a package that fits the canucks needs better which is defence and centres

        completly forgot ab lekkerimaki too lol
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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        Quoting: BenningTruther
        if the canucks traded their most valuable asset for a winger they should all be fired today. those 4 plus Miller, Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Boeser and Garland a winger is the last thing they need. There will be a package that fits the canucks needs better which is defence and centres

        completly forgot ab lekkerimaki too lol


        They’re trying to trade all of those guys (except kuzmenko). Canucks need help everywhere, they shouldn’t be placing an emphasis on one position over another. It’s not like they’ll be competitive in the next two years.
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
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        Quoting: DefenseFirst
        They’re trying to trade all of those guys (except kuzmenko). Canucks need help everywhere, they shouldn’t be placing an emphasis on one position over another. It’s not like they’ll be competitive in the next two years.


        if the canucks traded bo and didnt get a dman or centre back there would be another riot lol
        Jan. 28, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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        Quoting: BenningTruther
        if the canucks traded bo and didnt get a dman or centre back there would be another riot lol


        Why?
        Jan. 30, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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        Quoting: DefenseFirst
        Why?


        because those are their needs especially since bo left, just filled one of em now id imagine boeser or garland goes for a dman

        rumored interest in carlo too tho idk if boston would move him
        Jan. 30, 2023 at 6:37 p.m.
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        Quoting: BenningTruther
        because those are their needs especially since bo left, just filled one of em now id imagine boeser or garland goes for a dman

        rumored interest in carlo too tho idk if boston would move him


        Their needs are everything.

        There was rumors that vancouver liked carlo - duh - all teams would. There were no rumors he was ever in discussions.
         
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