Lebrun says Timo trade Front narrowed down

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$74,633,334	$0	$437,500	$7,866,666

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Hertl, Tomas $6,750,000$6,750,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Labanc, Kevin $4,725,000$4,725,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Lindblom, Oskar $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Couture, Logan $8,000,000$8,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 5	Barabanov, Alexander $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Gregor, Noah $950,000$950,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Bonino, Nick $1,025,000$1,025,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kaut, Martin $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) RW RFA - 1
Svechnikov, Evgeny $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 3	Eyssimont, Michael $750,000$750,000 RW, C UFA - 1
	Lorentz, Steven $1,050,000$1,050,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Gunler, Noel $862,500$862,500 ($12,500$12K) RW, LW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 4	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Kähkönen, Kaapo $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Ferraro, Mario $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 4	Benning, Matthew $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 4	Reimer, James $2,250,000$2,250,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Simek, Radim $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
MacDonald, Jacob $762,500$762,500 LD/RD UFA - 2
Harrington, Scott $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Kunin, Luke $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C RFA - 2	Nutivaara, Markus $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($250,000$250K) LD/RD UFA - 1
	Gadjovich, Jonah $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Feb. 25, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.

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Quoting: sleeparc

I actually do read scouting reports. I don't have time to sit here and post microstats all day and argue with incompetent devils fans about the merits of prospect evaluation. I have a full time job and a other humans that depend on me.

Honestly you don't fully know with prospects, no one does except for the truly elite players like McDavid.

At the very least I stay on topic. Yes I say one guy is better than another guy based on my observations. That's my subjective opinion. A few devils fans on here take this hyper personal. Relax, it's hockey. You don't like my opinion? Fine. You want to voice it in a public forum? Fine.

I'm not a scout and neither are you.

Now can we get back to hockey talk or are we going to argue over which of us is the best armchair GM all day?

Maybe stop trashing our prospects every opportunity you get? Cause you love doing it. Says a lot we can have logical conversations with other shark fans, just not you and sjbackseatgm

Feb. 25, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.

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Quoting: sleeparc

I actually do read scouting reports. I don't have time to sit here and post microstats all day and argue with incompetent devils fans about the merits of prospect evaluation. I have a full time job and a other humans that depend on me.

Honestly you don't fully know with prospects, no one does except for the truly elite players like McDavid.

At the very least I stay on topic. Yes I say one guy is better than another guy based on my observations. That's my subjective opinion. A few devils fans on here take this hyper personal. Relax, it's hockey. You don't like my opinion? Fine. You want to voice it in a public forum? Fine.

I'm not a scout and neither are you.

Now can we get back to hockey talk or are we going to argue over which of us is the best armchair GM all day?

"I'm a very busy man so I don't have to justify my outlandish prospect rankings with pesky things like stats or logic"

Feb. 25, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

"I'm a very busy man so I don't have to justify my outlandish prospect rankings with pesky things like stats or logic"

Ok big guy, ignore list it is. Take care.

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Feb. 25, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.

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Ok big guy, ignore list it is. Take care.

Ah yes! The big man move! When you can’t have a logical conversation and admit you’re just making things up, you just block them! The audacity of these two lol

Feb. 25, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.

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Quoting: sleeparc

I actually do read scouting reports. I don't have time to sit here and post microstats all day and argue with incompetent devils fans about the merits of prospect evaluation. I have a full time job and a other humans that depend on me.

Honestly you don't fully know with prospects, no one does except for the truly elite players like McDavid.

At the very least I stay on topic. Yes I say one guy is better than another guy based on my observations. That's my subjective opinion. A few devils fans on here take this hyper personal. Relax, it's hockey. You don't like my opinion? Fine. You want to voice it in a public forum? Fine.

I'm not a scout and neither are you.

Now can we get back to hockey talk or are we going to argue over which of us is the best armchair GM all day?

A very reasonable response, and I commend you for your patience. Devils fans are having discussions on whether or not Holtz is a bust and the statistics on non top 4OA first rounders that don't become impact NHLers. As well as AHL stars vs. NHL impact players. Time will tell, but Holtz has skating/processing issues and that's very worrisome.

While simultaneously, many are running what appears to be an online campaign inflating Holtz's value (while deflating Timo's). I'm over it, I'll take him as a B prospect in a package but I would prefer Muk. The devils have 2 elite prospects (Nemec and Hughes) and plethora of good/B prospects, but I don't see any better than Morrow that aren't those 2. To your point, he also just so happens to fill a big need for the Sharks. So yea, if NJD doesn't offer Nemec or Mercer the Canes will win Timo's services with a package like this imo.

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Feb. 25, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Sjbackseatgm

A very reasonable response, and I commend you for your patience. Devils fans are having discussions on whether or not Holtz is a bust and the statistics on non top 4OA first rounders that don't become impact NHLers. As well as AHL stars vs. NHL impact players. Time will tell, but Holtz has skating/processing issues and that's very worrisome.

While simultaneously, many are running what appears to be an online campaign inflating Holtz's value (while deflating Timo's). I'm over it, I'll take him as a B prospect in a package but I would prefer Muk. The devils have 2 elite prospects (Nemec and Hughes) and plethora of good/B prospects, but I don't see any better than Morrow that aren't those 2. To your point, he also just so happens to fill a big need for the Sharks. So yea, if NJD doesn't offer Nemec or Mercer the Canes will win Timo's services with a package like this imo.

I mean, you're also backing up a guy that said Morrow > Nemec.

There's having a different opinion on prospects, and then there's just baiting people like he does. I stay out of stuff like this, but him baiting Devils fans then complaining when they hit back is just stupid.

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Feb. 25, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.

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Quoting: MellowK

I mean, you're also backing up a guy that said Morrow > Nemec.

There's having a different opinion on prospects, and then there's just baiting people like he does. I stay out of stuff like this, but him baiting Devils fans then complaining when they hit back is just stupid.

The literal comment was Morrow over Holtz. Stop making things up to back up your ridiculous agenda.

Feb. 25, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.

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Quoting: sleeparc

The literal comment was Morrow over Holtz. Stop making things up to back up your ridiculous agenda.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/681400

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Feb. 25, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.

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Quoting: MellowK

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/681400

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Feb. 25, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.

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Quoting: MellowK

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/681400

Eh. So I did.

I do like Morrow. And he could be better than Nemec. Time will tell

Feb. 25, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.

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Quoting: Klara

Quoting: MellowK

I mean, you're also backing up a guy that said Morrow > Nemec.

There's having a different opinion on prospects, and then there's just baiting people like he does. I stay out of stuff like this, but him baiting Devils fans then complaining when they hit back is just stupid.

Quoting: Sjbackseatgm

A very reasonable response, and I commend you for your patience. Devils fans are having discussions on whether or not Holtz is a bust and the statistics on non top 4OA first rounders that don't become impact NHLers. As well as AHL stars vs. NHL impact players. Time will tell, but Holtz has skating/processing issues and that's very worrisome.

While simultaneously, many are running what appears to be an online campaign inflating Holtz's value (while deflating Timo's). I'm over it, I'll take him as a B prospect in a package but I would prefer Muk. The devils have 2 elite prospects (Nemec and Hughes) and plethora of good/B prospects, but I don't see any better than Morrow that aren't those 2. To your point, he also just so happens to fill a big need for the Sharks. So yea, if NJD doesn't offer Nemec or Mercer the Canes will win Timo's services with a package like this imo.

Quoting: RV23

Ah yes! The big man move! When you can’t have a logical conversation and admit you’re just making things up, you just block them! The audacity of these two lol

Quoting: Blacktown

Eh. So I did.

I do like Morrow. And he could be better than Nemec. Time will tell

And the canes are now reportedly out on meier

Elliotte Friedman on Hockey Night in Canada says the Hurricanes may be out on Timo Meier. #NJDevils
— James Nichols (@JamesNicholsNHL) February 26, 2023

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