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If the reports are true

Created by: JeffGorton
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 7, 2023
Published: Mar. 7, 2023
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Habs right now hold the 7th and 13th picks.

There was an interview with Brian Wilde on TSN radio about who the Habs might be focusing on in the Draft. And Wilde said Fans wont like who the Habs are looking at. He didnt give any names but said they were looking for bigger players.
Looks like these are players that are being targeted:
David Reinbacher
Matthew Wood
Calum Ritchie

But Wilde did say that the Habs wont be reaching if the pick is top 4
Bedard
Fantili
Carlsson
Michkov

Unless the pick is top 4, id rather trade it then draft these 'big bodied' bums
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Clarke, Brandt
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
I really have no clue about the value here but a 7th pick in a stacked draft should be able to get you this
LAK
  1. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$82,500,000$77,572,499$1,132,500$5,490,000$4,927,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 3
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 4
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$880,833$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167
RD
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$507,500$508K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Mar. 7, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
#51
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Quoting: IconicHawk
I think ASP is going to go ahead of him


Maybe. I can see that. Reinbacher has size though... Which might play into it.
Mar. 7, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Ritzy
"You're judged on your ability to hit certain milestones on a consistent basis".

Anderson has quite literally only hit 20 goals once. Once. There is nothing consistent about this. It's not practical if he can't stay healthy to do it.

Built up 17 to 19 to 27 then spent a year on LTIR before coming back
Built up 17 to 19 to 18 and counting with 19 games left

You argued injuries plural
I argue its singular and injuries havent sidelined him long enough to impart anything you asserted.

We can argue a lot about Anderson but using his healthy is not based on facts or the results he's put up.
Anyone who can read a basic stats sheet can see the trend.
the only way you dont get it is if you applid 82 game season to the pandemic year .
Since leading CBJ he's miss 4 games , 13 games and 2 games are the numbers for each of the 3 seasons in MTL.
I can provide times and dates but really it would be easiest to just use the site your on to confirm it
Mar. 7, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
I'm worried we'll take Reinbacher with our highest pick (assuming no lottery wins) which would be drafting by need instead of BPA.
I'd be okay with trading down our lowest pick and grabbing Dragicevic and Hrabal instead, if possible.
Unless of course we trade for a high end forward (Dubois), then we can maybe afford to go off the board.


I would love to see us trade the Florida pick for 2 bottom 12 picks and pickup those 2 players.
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Mar. 7, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
Maybe. I can see that. Reinbacher has size though... Which might play into it.


You can’t fool me with the size excuse anymore everyone knows Axel is more gifted
Mar. 7, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
You can’t fool me with the size excuse anymore everyone knows Axel is more gifted


In terms of pure skill, I don't think either project beyond a 3/4 damn in the NHL.

I think the Habs pickup the one that they think will best compliment Barron & Mailloux. We already have Harris & Hutson long term at D. It's a lot of smaller bodies to add ASP. Unless they really see him as a top pair guy, at which point they maybe pick him up.
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Mar. 7, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
In terms of pure skill, I don't think either project beyond a 3/4 damn in the NHL.

I think the Habs pickup the one that they think will best compliment Barron & Mailloux. We already have Harris & Hutson long term at D. It's a lot of smaller bodies to add ASP. Unless they really see him as a top pair guy, at which point they maybe pick him up.


Depends on Livingstone
We get him it changes a lot
IMO we'd start taking the best players in NCAA and Liiga to avoid signing rights
It will help MTL stay more flexible in the coming years contract wise where even with Veterans leaving its starting to get tight as youth overachieve.
Mar. 7, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
I disagree completely with your 20 goal scorer statement. As for the cap dump stuff, I went over that with Billy316, so we don't need to get into that again.

Your assessment a 20 goal scorer being based on goals per game is completely false. I have never heard anyone, outside of fans on message boards, make that claim anywhere. You have to score 20 goals to be a 20 goal scorer. Anderson has done that once. He's not a consistent 20 goal scorer by anyone's real or conventionally accepted definition. You may not agree but to be considered as consistent at doing something you actually have to do it... consistently.

Is the Art Ross or Maurice Richard trophy given to the player with the best goals pet game or points per game rating, or to the players that actually score the most points and goals in season?


There's a difference between benchmarks and player evaluation.
When you are looking at records where you have to reach a threshold, you evaluate by total without context. There are strict criteria involved.
Player scouting/evaluations are more fluid. We don't call players 17 goal scorers, or 28 goal scorers, we round off and/or use 82 game pace. It's standard practice.

So what is the arbitrary number of seasons you need to reach 20 goals or more to be considered a "20 goal scorer"?
Doing it once gets you into the club, but you're saying that's not enough. Is 20 this season enough? Or did he get kicked out of the club because he missed the mark by 1 or 2 goals a couple of times?
Do you have to get 20 goals every single season to keep your 20 goal scorer status? Do they give you an award for hitting 20 goals and then come take it away if you only score 19 next year?
Do GMs or Media have to pay a fine if they refer to a player as a 20 goal scorer in an article or press statement if that player doesn't currently have 20 goals?

If you are going to set it as a hard line, there have to be hard rules, which isn't practical when used simply as a descriptor of a player's ability. That's why I say it is technical vs. practical.
It's not practical to describe a player as an 18 goal scorer, and it's less accurate to describe them as a 15 goal scorer than as a 20 goal scorer. The guy who scores 20 goals in 82 games isn't better than the guy who scores 19 goals in 62 games, so why pretend differently?
Mar. 7, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
There's a difference between benchmarks and player evaluation.
When you are looking at records where you have to reach a threshold, you evaluate by total without context. There are strict criteria involved.
Player scouting/evaluations are more fluid. We don't call players 17 goal scorers, or 28 goal scorers, we round off and/or use 82 game pace. It's standard practice.

So what is the arbitrary number of seasons you need to reach 20 goals or more to be considered a "20 goal scorer"?
Doing it once gets you into the club, but you're saying that's not enough. Is 20 this season enough? Or did he get kicked out of the club because he missed the mark by 1 or 2 goals a couple of times?
Do you have to get 20 goals every single season to keep your 20 goal scorer status? Do they give you an award for hitting 20 goals and then come take it away if you only score 19 next year?
Do GMs or Media have to pay a fine if they refer to a player as a 20 goal scorer in an article or press statement if that player doesn't currently have 20 goals?

If you are going to set it as a hard line, there have to be hard rules, which isn't practical when used simply as a descriptor of a player's ability. That's why I say it is technical vs. practical.
It's not practical to describe a player as an 18 goal scorer, and it's less accurate to describe them as a 15 goal scorer than as a 20 goal scorer. The guy who scores 20 goals in 82 games isn't better than the guy who scores 19 goals in 62 games, so why pretend differently?


It's in the wording, you're calling him a consistent 20 goal scorer when he had hit that mark once in 6 seasons. That isn't consistently.

However, if you are putting all your valuation into his goals per 60, then by default you have to agree that of his minutes go up, his goals go up and of his minutes go down his goals go down.

Again a team that is not going to give him those minutes or opportunities world not view him as a 20 goal scorer as he won't get the ice time to get to those numbers. Why would you pretend otherwise when your argument is based on his scoring rate?
 
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