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Off-season 2023

Created by: Sabres1973
Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 12, 2023
Published: Mar. 13, 2023
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I just don’t think savoie can go back to jrs again next year and he won’t be eligible for Rochester. Jiri looks so good and putting him with tuch an cozens will jump his development
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,200,000
2$850,000
1$850,000
3$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
3$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
3$3,500,000
1$950,000
2$850,000
4$1,500,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
BUF
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (NYI)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (NYI)
3.
BUF
  1. 2024 4th round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$62,256,070$0$4,145,000$21,243,930

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
UFA - 7
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$918,333$918,333
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
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RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$687,500$687,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 6:55 a.m.
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EDM can't afford Olofsson and probably wouldn't pay that for him.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 7:06 a.m.
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Well this is just not smart at all
And that’s me putting it nicely

Kulich making the Sabres is a reach
Yeah, he looks good. But he still has more development to do
Putting him on line 2 is a joke

And just bc Savoie is too good for juniors (or whatever),
that doesn’t mean he’s ready for the NHL
And playing him on the 4th line is just brutal dude
Are you Ralph Kruger???

This is the kind of nonsense that fans do,
and not what a real life GM does
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 7:09 a.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
EDM can't afford Olofsson and probably wouldn't pay that for him.


Not that i think the Sabres should trade Olofsson,
but EDM should jump at the idea of getting him
He’d tear it up playing with McDavid or Draisaitl
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 8:32 a.m.
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Quoting: homiedaclown
Not that i think the Sabres should trade Olofsson,
but EDM should jump at the idea of getting him
He’d tear it up playing with McDavid or Draisaitl

Maybe, but he wouldn't get 1st unit PP time and won't positively contribute to their on-ice defensive results at 5-on-5 which makes him a less-than-optimal fit. Further, he's a pending FA following next year so, even if we presume he destroys the league, the team couldn't afford to keep him which limits my perception of the "value" he would bring.

To challenge your assumption that he'd succeed with McDavid or Draisaitl, it's vital to ask: who are the players who have thrived alongside each of them and what traits do those who have thrived possess and/or share? As a fan of the team, I've watched a lot of different players cycle through the Ws for those two and spent a good deal of time focusing on precisely that issue. What I've identified over time is that the players that found success with and brought out the best in them had at least 2 of these qualities:

1.) strong cycle game (board battles, smart positioning, etc)
2.) control of the front of the net (positioning, strength, tip-in/deflections, etc)
3.) ability to read off their plays at a high level and contribute with smart & deft touch-passing plays (like give & go plays)
4.) actively assumes the role of F1 on the backcheck so they can focus more on offense
5.) puck pursuit & retrieval

Hyman brings #s 1, 2, and 5
Maroon brought #s 1 and 2
Nuge brings #s 1, 3, 4, and 5
Yamo brings #s 3 and 5
Puljujarvi brought #s 4 and 5

In my admittedly limited viewings of Olofsson and the way he's described by others, I get the sense that he would perhaps bring # 3 alongside his strong shooting arsenal but would otherwise not fit that mould. Maybe that would be enough to find success, but I'm not inclined to believe it based on my experience. Besides, they're not desperate for finishers on their lines now that they're two of the best finishers in the league.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 9:02 a.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
Maybe, but he wouldn't get 1st unit PP time and won't positively contribute to their on-ice defensive results at 5-on-5 which makes him a less-than-optimal fit. Further, he's a pending FA following next year so, even if we presume he destroys the league, the team couldn't afford to keep him which limits my perception of the "value" he would bring.

To challenge your assumption that he'd succeed with McDavid or Draisaitl, it's vital to ask: who are the players who have thrived alongside each of them and what traits do those who have thrived possess and/or share? As a fan of the team, I've watched a lot of different players cycle through the Ws for those two and spent a good deal of time focusing on precisely that issue. What I've identified over time is that the players that found success with and brought out the best in them had at least 2 of these qualities:

1.) strong cycle game (board battles, smart positioning, etc)
2.) control of the front of the net (positioning, strength, tip-in/deflections, etc)
3.) ability to read off their plays at a high level and contribute with smart & deft touch-passing plays (like give & go plays)
4.) actively assumes the role of F1 on the backcheck so they can focus more on offense
5.) puck pursuit & retrieval

Hyman brings #s 1, 2, and 5
Maroon brought #s 1 and 2
Nuge brings #s 1, 3, 4, and 5
Yamo brings #s 3 and 5
Puljujarvi brought #s 4 and 5

In my admittedly limited viewings of Olofsson and the way he's described by others, I get the sense that he would perhaps bring # 3 alongside his strong shooting arsenal but would otherwise not fit that mould. Maybe that would be enough to find success, but I'm not inclined to believe it based on my experience. Besides, they're not desperate for finishers on their lines now that they're two of the best finishers in the league.


They don’t have to be “desperate for finishers” for Olofsson to go there & light up the scoreboard
U don’t have the Cap Space to fix your defensive issues,
so u might as well bring in some fairly cheap offensive talent to try & win by outscoring teams
As far as how you keep him….
Extend him before he scores 40goals for you

And he could be on PP1 imo
His shot is insane
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: homiedaclown
Well this is just not smart at all
And that’s me putting it nicely

Kulich making the Sabres is a reach
Yeah, he looks good. But he still has more development to do
Putting him on line 2 is a joke

And just bc Savoie is too good for juniors (or whatever),
that doesn’t mean he’s ready for the NHL
And playing him on the 4th line is just brutal dude
Are you Ralph Kruger???

This is the kind of nonsense that fans do,
and not what a real life GM does


I thought I heard the Sabres were trying for an exemption for Savoie, so he could play in Rochester. He misses the cutoff by literally one day, it would be hard to make the case that he would benefit by going back to juniors.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: homiedaclown
They don’t have to be “desperate for finishers” for Olofsson to go there & light up the scoreboard
U don’t have the Cap Space to fix your defensive issues,
so u might as well bring in some fairly cheap offensive talent to try & win by outscoring teams
As far as how you keep him….
Extend him before he scores 40goals for you

And he could be on PP1 imo
His shot is insane

Sure, but for Olofsson to find success, he needs to be a fit with one of the two. I've laid out my reasoning for what traits and abilities usually mesh with the two and why Olofsson doesn't really fit. If you disagree, that's fine but your reasoning ("because insane shot") isn't a strong counterargument.

As for your cap reasoning that they "don't have the cap to fix the defensive issues", your alternative is to suggest they spend an additional 4.75mil of their 8.5mil in space on Olofsson while limiting/removing their ability to re-sign key contributors (Bouchard and McLeod) and fill out a full roster. Smart.

As for PP1, McDavid and Drai already occupy the area of the ice where Olofsson's shot would be best utilised (right half-wall/bumper) and two of the other positions aren't a fit for him (pointman and net front). As such, he'd be competing with Nuge for the left half-wall position where his one-timer wouldn't be optimally deployed. Given that PP unit is historically good with Nuge there and has been for the past 2-3 seasons, I can be very confident in saying that he wouldn't be on PP1.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 11:16 a.m.
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The Blues have no use for Comrie, thanks.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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Blues already have their backup goaltender for next year
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
EDM can't afford Olofsson and probably wouldn't pay that for him.


How about 50 percent retained and a second only ?
Mar. 13, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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That 4th from the Blues is a 3rd unless the rangers miss the playoffs. Also no need at all for Comrie, especially if you have to give an asset for him.

I don't think you'd find any takers if you'd just waive him at this point. 1.8m for a guy with a .870 isn't exactly worthwhile for a team to take on. You can find better for vet min contracts in the offseason.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Trading Olof now isn't good unless you're replacing him on the 3rd Line w/ Kulich. Your 3rd Line has no scoring.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.
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Think more like these:

L1 Skinner, TnT, Tuch
L2 JJ, Cozens, Quinn
L3 Mitts, Krebs/Savoie, Kulich
L4 Greeway, Jost, Bjugstad.

This way you maximize JJ. Also, Savoie is no 4th L RW or C, too small.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 3:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Finn2016
How about 50 percent retained and a second only ?


It seems pointless trying to peddle Olofsson to the highest scoring team in the league. The guy's one major selling point is his shot, so in order to extract maximum value we'd need to find a team that NEEDS more offense.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 4:29 p.m.
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It seems pointless trying to peddle Olofsson to the highest scoring team in the league. The guy's one major selling point is his shot, so in order to extract maximum value we'd need to find a team that NEEDS more offense.


Quoting: TraderJoes
It seems pointless trying to peddle Olofsson to the highest scoring team in the league. The guy's one major selling point is his shot, so in order to extract maximum value we'd need to find a team that NEEDS more offense.


He needs new home
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.
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He needs new home


That's fair, I can understand that reasoning. Best to find a defensively sound team that's looking for more goals then. NYI, Nashville and Minnesota are good targets.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: TraderJoes
That's fair, I can understand that reasoning. Best to find a defensively sound team that's looking for more goals then. NYI, Nashville and Minnesota are good targets.


Mayfield,Gudas my rh hopes. I’d love Ferraro but costly. Peeke,Korczak also my favourites if paying. Last three young for rebuild
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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That's fair, I can understand that reasoning. Best to find a defensively sound team that's looking for more goals then. NYI, Nashville and Minnesota are good targets.


I hoped or wished Eichel misses him
If you could put his shot on Zig or Greenway they’d be stars
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.
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That's fair, I can understand that reasoning. Best to find a defensively sound team that's looking for more goals then. NYI, Nashville and Minnesota are good targets.


Throw in Acciari and Kampf and couple good d and we’re different team
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