I was going to say good thinking with this trade... until you said 22nd pick. You must have meant 32nd... lol

Haha. Definitely it could. I've just based this off "current" standings and if Colorado doesn't make the final 4.

COL could use more picks unfortunately COL sucks for the most part drafting outside the first round.

I mean if the picks end up where they are and if Detroit sees someone they have to have left on the board then ok but draft pick trades like this depend so much on final standings and the draft unfolding.

Yea. A trade like this highly depends on prospects available. If say the Avs are in the 22-24 range and a player Detroit was high on and thought would be gone was still available. I think there's a deal to be made here to move up with Colorado just based on how few picks they made the past 3 drafts and considering they only have 4 picks in 2023 and 4 picks in 2024.

I think they've had some good picks in the 2-4(Edit: 2nd-4th round) range. New to old: Behrens, JLF, Ambrosio, Annunen, Rambo, Timmins*(would be a 1st now) and Kovalenko will be a steal if he comes over. It drops off huge prior to 2017 but, they have redone their draft team since then. I like how the new squad has done.

I could see Colorado dropping back a few picks to gain another pick. If it was to happen it would be a draft day trade.

Right now Detroit has the 8th, 9th and 10th picks of the 2nd round or 40th, 41st and 42nd overall.

Well played!!

That’s a lot of maybe so far, Ranta god I want him to pan out but dude just can’t process the game, Ambrosio is a stretch imo. But on the flip side there is Morrison, Meloche, Anderson, Greer, Bigras, Martin all 2nd or 3rd rd picks who never made a dent. Yeah some moved on and had careers, but to say I think any faith in the Avs development team would be very unwarranted. Prospects that have succeeded have either jumped straight into the NHL or played college.

Hence why I titled this post Draft Day Trade

If Colorado's 1st was somewhere between Pick #22-24 and Detroit offered #40 and #41 plus a 4th in this years draft. I'd really like that move.

Yes, the Avs can use more picks. However, they value their firsts and have done pretty well finding depth via other avenues.

They got Meyers as a free agent out of college, NAK off waivers, Malgin via trade for a guy they picked up off waivers, Francouz out of the KHL, Graves in a change of scenery trade, and maybe more I can't think of. The main point is they trust their pro scouts to find some gems, which offsets the lack of picks. For that reason, I think they decline. It's not an awful idea though.

Our former GM had problems drafting in the 1st round. Holland was the Red Wings GM for 22 drafts but only had 14 1st round picks. Out of those 14 picks he only hit on 2 Larkin and Kronwall.

My bad for not reading the title.

Maybe is what all prospects are and they're progressing on schedule. Not sure what your timelines expectations are for 2nd-4th rounders to become full time nhler's. Since the new group took over in 2017(after those names you mentioned) they have found someone who is currently a fringe nhler in that range, sometimes 2. I would have faith in that. If each year you have 1 or 2 in house elc's fighting for a spot on a cup team, you're doing good. Avs don't need high end, they need mids. Ambrosio is easy to not have hope for, unless you watch him. He will be an nhl player and any scout that has followed him, would confirm it. He is our collegiate JLF.

My only problem with this trade would be that in the second round you can find some gems that were overlooked in the first round. There are a ton of guys that are stars in this league drafted in the second round but just for highly rated prospects off the top of my head think of Wallinder, Morrow and Luneau as picks in the second round. I would be really happy with one of those equivalents from our three picks. That said if they could find a player like Schneider or Johnston a little a later in the first round it would be really hard to pass on. As I think of Johnston I think of how much I hate that trade still, as long as Yzerman selected him with that pick.

If we somehow got more second round picks by taking on contracts or something then sure.

I'd say Fischer was a hit as well. He was a very good defender when he played but had an unfortunate heart condition. No fault of Holland. He would of had a really good long career if not for that. I think Detroit probably could have won the 2007 cup if Fischer still played. The Kronwall injury really hurt Detroit in that series.

But I overall agree that Hollands track record was poor. They're already seeing that in Edmonton. Broberg, Holloway aren't living up to their draft position.

Holland did draft some good players in the 1st round, but Larkin and Kronwall are/were the only ones that lived up to what you expect out of a 1st rd pick. Larkin is a 1st line player and Kronwall was a top pair dman. Kronwall and Stewart are one of my favorite defensive pairings. There were games where it looked like they were competing against each other to see who could throw the biggest hit.

Yzerman's track record isn't great either in the first round. Lol back at Tampa's picks and only a few good hits. Alot of flops. He gets alot of credit for drafting Kucherov and Point but if he thought they were going to be so good why not take them earlier. He got lucky and scored with them and a few others just like every GM does.

So far so good with Detroit. Seider was a massive hit. Raymond has played better than any player taken after him. Edvinsson is playing very well in the AHL. Kaspar has so far out performed any player that was taken after him. Interesting fact. Yzerman had Tim Stutzle ahead of Alexis Lafreniere in 2020 had Detroit not been screwed over in the lottery. If Detroit was picking 1st, 2nd or 3rd and Stutzle was available. Yzerman was taking him. So far Stutzle is the best player out of that draft. Take that for what its worth.

Oh I agree, a lot goes for scouting as well.

Also I wouldn't call Cossa a hit. Still early on him but i would expect him to put up better numbers in the ECHL. Still young I know and actually his numbers have improved since I looked last.