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Harts Value

Created by: mattice
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 15, 2023
Published: Mar. 15, 2023
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What’s he worth?
Any past comparisons?
Trades
PHI
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Primeau, Cayden
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
17$83,500,000$61,640,666$1,170,000$4,195,000$21,859,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Mar. 15, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
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This is probably not enough for Philly to move him but it's also all I would personally give up to get him.

I think Ottawa would be front runners for him, goalie is the last piece to their puzzle and Hart would be the right age to fit their window.
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Mar. 15, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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This is probably not enough for Philly to move him but it's also all I would personally give up to get him.

I think Ottawa would be front runners for him, goalie is the last piece to their puzzle and Hart would be the right age to fit their window.


Word is they want a top 10 pick and a high level prospect, this seems absurd considering he has been mostly average net minder save for his rookie year, but he is on a bad team and is only 24 so jury is still out on his ceiling. he is just barely coming into his prime.
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Mar. 15, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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I personally don't think Hart will be dealt unless he makes it clear he want to leave. It's hard to gauge his value cause when looking at his stat line it's not the best but when you look at his underlying numbers he's been good. Among goalies with 35 games played he sits 12th in the league in GSAx.
Mar. 15, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Word is they want a top 10 pick and a high level prospect, this seems absurd considering he has been mostly average net minder save for his rookie year, but he is on a bad team and is only 24 so jury is still out on his ceiling. he is just barely coming into his prime.


That would be quite the haul for Philly, don't see a team picking in the top 10 that would be willing to do it though. Their all rebuilding and Hart would be a contender/ wanna be a contender move
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Mar. 15, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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That would be quite the haul for Philly, don't see a team picking in the top 10 that would be willing to do it though. Their all rebuilding and Hart would be a contender/ wanna be a contender move

the only option I see is Florida’s 1st from Montreal and maybe Allen or Monteblaunt
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Mar. 15, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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Reposting from previous comments:

I haven't looked hard enough at every team's goaltending situation to definitively state Hart won't return a 1st in trade, but I have looked at goaltender trades over the past few years and the high end is multiple picks including up to two 3rds.

The notable exception is Kuemper, where Colorado was desperate and he had solid numbers with a .920 save percentage over 3 years in Arizona. Way better numbers on a worse team and the return was a late 1st. Timmins was a project with an injury history and little recent action. He was flipped for a 4th round drafted, 6'9" project prospect. The 3rd was conditional on a cup win (which ended up happening, but that's long odds and more of a bonus).

When Schneider was traded for a 1st, it was ONLY for the 1st (9th overall) (no "extras" in the deal. He was maintaining a .927 save percentage over 3 years. Much better team of course, but he was in the top tier and had a Jennings.

As for others:
There's speculation about NJ not qualifying Blackwood. (Very comparable raw stats to date, but Hart's expected numbers are better than Blackwood's.)
Georgiev was traded for two 3rds and a 5th.
Nedeljkovic for Reimer and a 3rd.
Samsonov wasn't qualified.
Gustavsson was swapped straight up for Talbot.
Vanecek went for a 2nd and a 3rd.
Adin Hill for a 4th.
Vladar for a 3rd.

If you're paying beyond those prices for Hart, you're paying a premium for name recognition.
 
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