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Overpay and win now

Created by: mk458
Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 16, 2023
Published: Mar. 16, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Let me know if you think the Coyotes would make this trade. And if you say "Crouse isn't available", come on, It's Arizona, realistically everyone is available for the right price
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$900,000
3$3,750,000
2$1,600,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. 2024 4th round pick (SJS)
  3. 2025 7th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Määttä, Joel [Reserve List]
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
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PHI
  1. Kulak, Brett
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$84,500,000$85,280,000$850,000$1,100,000-$780,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Crouse, Lawson
$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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Kane, Evander
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptBourgault, Xavier
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
RW
RFA - 2
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Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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McLeod, Ryan
$1,600,000$1,600,000
C
RFA - 2
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Kostin, Klim
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Lavoie, Raphael
$900,000$900,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Bonino, Nick
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Nurse, Darnell
$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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Ceci, Cody
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Skinner, Stuart
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 3
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Bouchard, Evan
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Campbell, Jack
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Ekholm, Mattias
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Desharnais, Vincent
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptBroberg, Philip
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Niemeläinen, Markus
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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Ryan, Derek
$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2

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Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.
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sens65
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That's probably an offer Arizona can't refuse.
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Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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Quoting: sens65
That's probably an offer Arizona can't refuse.


That's what I'm thinking. In a couple years Holloway should easily replace Crouse for them in the top 6. In my opinion Dylan Holloway might not have the highest ceiling of a top 15 pick, but his floor is quite high
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Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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I would sure hope that package would return a much better player!
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Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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Why trade Dylan Holloway, Joel Määttä, Kailer Yamamoto, and a 2024 1st round pick for Lawson Crouse, 2024 4th round pick, and a 2025 7th round pick (ARI)? Arizona would say yes to this trade with out hesitation.
Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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Oilers shouldn't be giving up on Holloway. Keep Holloway, the first and then spend 4.3m on a UFA or your RFAS, even it means not QO Yamamoto.
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Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: arab05
I would sure hope that package would return a much better player!


I think it's the Crouse contract that would make Edmonton willing to pay that. The oilers are extremely cash strapped for the foreseeable future. Not very many young top 6 forwards are only making 4 million for the next 4 years
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Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:28 p.m.
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I think it's the Crouse contract that would make Edmonton willing to pay that. The oilers are extremely cash strapped for the foreseeable future. Not very many young top 6 forwards are only making 4 million for the next 4 years


But why add a first?
Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:28 p.m.
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I love the ambition but I do feel if that's a bit too much for him. I agree with the idea thought but I feel as if Bourgault , Lavoie and a 2nd instead of Holloway and the 1st would be better and smth arizona would still accept
Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: capt_dude
But why add a first?


Just figured I'd overpay so Arizona fans wouldn't chew me up, but I forgot that Arizona fans kinda don't exist
Mar. 16, 2023 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
I love the ambition but I do feel if that's a bit too much for him. I agree with the idea thought but I feel as if Bourgault , Lavoie and a 2nd instead of Holloway and the 1st would be better and smth arizona would still accept


I agree that it's too much, but Arizona has no reason to trade Crouse. And the oilers are already super short on right handed wingers, so I prioritized keeping Bourgault and Lavoie for that reason
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Mar. 16, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.
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Just figured I'd overpay so Arizona fans wouldn't chew me up, but I forgot that Arizona fans kinda don't exist


Nope we exist, sorry to disappoint. Without the 1st the deal wouldn’t be considered, and adding the 1st is where Edmonton balks. This is what we mean every time we say crouse isn’t available. There’s always a combo of assets that can get anyone, but there’s no way to line up the value of what a team would be willing to pay and what we’d expect.
Mar. 17, 2023 at 1:02 a.m.
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Nope we exist, sorry to disappoint. Without the 1st the deal wouldn’t be considered, and adding the 1st is where Edmonton balks. This is what we mean every time we say crouse isn’t available. There’s always a combo of assets that can get anyone, but there’s no way to line up the value of what a team would be willing to pay and what we’d expect.


That's why I added the 1st. Seems like an offer the coyotes couldn't resist though. If someone offers a rebuilding team Holloway, Yamamoto, and a 1st for any non-elite player you should probably take it and run.
Mar. 17, 2023 at 2:01 a.m.
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I think Arizona accepts that, seems fair. Crouse is a good player.
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