No team is retaining almost 5 mill for 7 years, That doesn't get EK65.

7 years of retaining 4.75? Nah well just ride it out.

Canucks decline. We aren't retaining $3 mil, giving up our best defensive prospect, and moving back a year out of one of the strongest drafts of all time, just to get Victor Soderstrom.

Myers isn't a defensive prospect, people have been giving him away for free.

There is no retain on Karlsson that's why the price is lower. He is a good player but looks at what Burns got, no way anyone offers more for Karlsson with no retention

Thats why the 2nd is in there, teams at the deadline paid a 5th for 3mill in retain, a 2nd is more than fair. Tbh should be a 3rd probably.

Oh, where to start. 3M retention at the TDL is like $500K in real $. And it's for like 6 weeks. This trade would be over $30 million in real $ retained. No team is retaining $30m over 7 years for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. That much retention would require multiple 1st round picks.

That is not worth it for the Flyers

So then the Sharks would retain and get a massive haul instead of this crap. They don't need to dump the contract, so why dump it for nothing?

Burns is a completely different story. He wanted out of San Jose and to go to a contender. He’s also like 6 years older than Karlsson, and had not had a season like Karlsson is having in years.

Myers is not a defensive prospect. Pettersson is, and he is our best one too. Myers is being given away for free at full salary, if you want the Canucks to retain $3 mil on him then he will probably cost something, albeit something small (probably around a 4th).

You said Myers was the best defensive prospect??

We aren't retaining $3 mil, giving up our best defensive prospect

Soderstrom is way better than Peterson anyway, that guys like a 3rd rounder from last year and Soderstrom is playing in the NHL? Also a 4th is more than the difference of trading a 3rd for a 3rd but if you want to give up a 4th instead that works.

So you're suggesting Myers 50% + 4th + Peterson for Soderstrom, I'd do that.

No look at Burns, multiple years retained and he only went for a 3rd and a bad prospect and he's a better defender than Jones. If you want to keep him that's cool bro, think the Hawks want to rebuild tho and he's their last semi-dec player left.

Cause Sharks don't want to retain they said that's why they didn't want to trade with Edmonton cause they had to retain and were already retaining on Burns. Karlsson with no retain isn't that valuable, overpaid defensemen without retention isn't good. Besides look at similar retains and you don't get that much more Patrick Kane is a good example Arizona only got like a late pick for retaining 2.5m

They are willing to retain, just not the 4+ mil that some teams who are cap strapped want them to. Without retention Karl is still worth a 1st plus a prospect. Look at Doughty, he's slightly older, has the same term on his contract and only making 500k less than Karl. Yet the Kings aren't in cap hell because of him and are still competitive.

And Patty Kane is a horrible comparable for so many reasons but the two biggest being 1) hes on an expiring deal so the retention is to make the money work for a half season, not 4 more. If you retain for long term that will cost WAY more. 2) Kane is having an average year and EK is having one of the best ever by a defenseman.

Getting EK at a sub 10 cap hit is insanely valuable

The defensive prospect part applies to Pettersson, not Myers. It was a list.

1. Retaining $3 mil (Applies to Myers)
2. Giving up our best defensive prospect (applies to Pettersson)
3. Moving back draft picks (applies to the 3rd)

I’m saying Myers value at 50% retained is probably worth a 4th. Myers on his own doesn’t hold value, but the $3 mil in retention costs assets. If we call Pettersson equal to Soderstrom and the 3rds equal, then Myers is being given away for free. That makes sense if he’s not being retained, but the retention would require Arizona to add a something like a 4th. Value wise deal is okay, but I still would rather not do it. Soderstrom is better than Pettersson now, but I personally think Pettersson has a higher ceiling. Just because someone is playing in the NHL doesn’t make them more valuable than other players in lower leagues. By that logic, I’d do Aman for Geekie since Aman is playing in the NHL while Geekie is still in juniors (like Pettersson).

Wow that's bogus Soderstrom is a great player former 11th overall, Peterson being the best prospect for your team just says your team doesn't have good prospects, not that he's a good prospect. If you wouldn't do Peterson for Soderstrom thats kinda sus. Soderstrom is definitely worth more than Myers not retained + Petterson

Wow okay so Burns is bad because he wanted to leave and Kane is bad because he's expiring how many more bogus reasons do you have? Karlsson having a career year at 32 ain't gonna happen again. He isn't as good as other defensemen he's been bad since he came to the Sharks and now that he's scoring well you want an entire team for him??

No retain on Karlsson isn't worth much that's why I did and that's why the system accepted it. Sorry not sorry bro, this one went through.

Lmao you live in your own world so I'll leave you too it