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Dubois trade

Created by: Z0ra
Published: Mar. 24, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 42/185 (23%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dvorak, ChristianMontreal CanadiensNHL-$4,450,000011---64101828--
Farrell, SeanMontreal CanadiensReserve List-$0001---------
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dubois, Pierre-LucWinnipeg JetsNHL-$6,000,000011---64243256--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,390,8342647705617
Change-$1,550,00000-1-100
Final$1,840,834 (↓)264769 (↓)4 (↓)617141428

Logo of the Winnipeg JetsWinnipeg Jets

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dubois, Pierre-LucWinnipeg JetsNHL-$1,362,162011---64243256--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dvorak, ChristianMontreal CanadiensNHL-$1,010,270011---64101828--
Farrell, SeanMontreal CanadiensReserve List-$0001---------
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$768,3462645603410
Change$351,892001100
Final$1,120,238 (↑)264561 (↑)4 (↑)410-14-14-28
Mar. 24, 2023 at 8:31 p.m.
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Has anyone noticed that these Dubois to Montreal trades all look somewhat the same?
Mar. 24, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: CRC
Has anyone noticed that these Dubois to Montreal trades all look somewhat the same?


Yup. They're always absolutely horrible for the Jets.
Mar. 24, 2023 at 10:28 p.m.
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And when you look at it , I don't think Winnipeg would be interested in any of the players that Montreal would be willing to part with
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Mar. 24, 2023 at 11:17 p.m.
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Montreal isn't adding Farrell to a PLD trade, think Kidney + the Panthers 1st + Armia or Hoffman. Jets probably pass on that too though, since they want Suzuki + Caufield + Hutson + Dach + both Habs 2023 1sts, and Windjammer likely says that isn't enough anyway!
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Mar. 24, 2023 at 11:18 p.m.
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Has anyone noticed that these Dubois to Montreal trades all look somewhat the same?


You know this is a Jets fan proposing it right?!
Mar. 24, 2023 at 11:31 p.m.
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You know this is a Jets fan proposing it right?!


And I'm a Leafs fan , I was just remarking that it seems to be the same trade being posted for Dubois on this site quite a bit
Mar. 24, 2023 at 11:47 p.m.
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Add that Engstrom kid and it’s a fair deal
Mar. 24, 2023 at 11:48 p.m.
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Montreal isn't adding Farrell to a PLD trade, think Kidney + the Panthers 1st + Armia or Hoffman. Jets probably pass on that too though, since they want Suzuki + Caufield + Hutson + Dach + both Habs 2023 1sts, and Windjammer likely says that isn't enough anyway!


Lmao
Mar. 24, 2023 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: CRC
And I'm a Leafs fan , I was just remarking that it seems to be the same trade being posted for Dubois on this site quite a bit


It’s similar. This is a little weak but you can expect the Florida 1st and Dvorak to be in the deal ( cap purposes). Then you have a list of prospects that are likely included, two of: Mailloux, Farrell, Kidney, Engstrom, Ylonen, Roy.

My guess is either Mailloux and Kidney, OR Farrell and Engstrom along with the FLA 1st and Dvorak. That would get you in the ballpark of the Horvat/Meier deals.
Mar. 25, 2023 at 12:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Dom1422
It’s similar. This is a little weak but you can expect the Florida 1st and Dvorak to be in the deal ( cap purposes). Then you have a list of prospects that are likely included, two of: Mailloux, Farrell, Kidney, Engstrom, Ylonen, Roy.

My guess is either Mailloux and Kidney, OR Farrell and Engstrom along with the FLA 1st and Dvorak. That would get you in the ballpark of the Horvat/Meier deals.[/quot

It depends on whether other teams would be in on him
Mar. 25, 2023 at 1:15 a.m.
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It’s similar. This is a little weak but you can expect the Florida 1st and Dvorak to be in the deal ( cap purposes). Then you have a list of prospects that are likely included, two of: Mailloux, Farrell, Kidney, Engstrom, Ylonen, Roy.

My guess is either Mailloux and Kidney, OR Farrell and Engstrom along with the FLA 1st and Dvorak. That would get you in the ballpark of the Horvat/Meier deals.


If it's 2 of those 6, it's likely Ylonen + Kidney or Engstrom. Roy is a hometown boy and HuGo has been collecting quite a few of them, Farrell is thought of as elite by Adam Nicholas (head of player development), so Habs management will be extremely high on him. Mailloux fills an organizational need (RHD). So your likely going to have to pick 2 of Kidney, Engstrom and Ylonen.
Mar. 25, 2023 at 1:55 a.m.
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If it's 2 of those 6, it's likely Ylonen + Kidney or Engstrom. Roy is a hometown boy and HuGo has been collecting quite a few of them, Farrell is thought of as elite by Adam Nicholas (head of player development), so Habs management will be extremely high on him. Mailloux fills an organizational need (RHD). So your likely going to have to pick 2 of Kidney, Engstrom and Ylonen.


I was just listing the prospects that are going to be of value to Winnipeg, I wouldn’t expect us to move Roy and I don’t think Winnipeg would demand it.

As for Mailloux you send him before Farrell, at least in my opinion and considering Winnipeg’s lack of high end RD in the system, his size and upside I believe they will covet him.

This is a deal for Dubois, and while they lack leverage you will still have to pay a reasonable price. Giving up Mailloux is no issue and I believe HuGo will do it. The need for high end talented players in general is higher than a 2nd pairing right D..
who MAYBE could become more than that..

I could see FLA 1st, Mailloux, Ylonen and Dvorak as the deal.
Mar. 25, 2023 at 2:03 a.m.
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Dubois holds the cards here. Other teams may be in on him, but are they going to pay a hefty price knowing he will not re-sign with them? I’d say he will not sign with at least 2/3rds of the league.

We don’t know his preference at this point but we have an idea. We know he wouldn’t stay in Columbus (we thought it was about the coach) but now he is forcing his way out of Winnipeg for no real obvious reason. The only thing that makes sense is that these are small market teams.

We know he wants to sign in Montreal but is that the only place? Maybe it comes down to the market and he will only sign in a big one. That leaves us with like 10 teams but most of them like the Rangers, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, LA either don’t have the assets to make that deal, don’t have the cap space or are rebuilding…

Detroit is one team I can think of that will probably bring some competition but I don’t think it will be too much of a bidding war.

Regardless though this is pretty similar to the Horvat/Meier deals and there was a lot of competition for them.
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Mar. 26, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: CRC


Dubois holds the cards here. Other teams may be in on him, but are they going to pay a hefty price knowing he will not re-sign with them? I’d say he will not sign with at least 2/3rds of the league.

We don’t know his preference at this point but we have an idea. We know he wouldn’t stay in Columbus (we thought it was about the coach) but now he is forcing his way out of Winnipeg for no real obvious reason. The only thing that makes sense is that these are small market teams.

We know he wants to sign in Montreal but is that the only place? Maybe it comes down to the market and he will only sign in a big one. That leaves us with like 10 teams but most of them like the Rangers, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, LA either don’t have the assets to make that deal, don’t have the cap space or are rebuilding…

Detroit is one team I can think of that will probably bring some competition but I don’t think it will be too much of a bidding war.

Regardless though this is pretty similar to the Horvat/Meier deals and there was a lot of competition for them.


Yea it will be. Jets won’t be trading him to Montreal and anyone with a brain knows it. It’s going to be to a contender or a team that thinks they have a hope in signing him. My guess is a team trades for him at the draft, thinking 2023 first, another pick plus a B level prospect. That team then tries signing him and if fails will flip at the 2024 deadline to a contender
Mar. 26, 2023 at 8:53 p.m.
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Quoting: ChadLucifer
Dubois holds the cards here. Other teams may be in on him, but are they going to pay a hefty price knowing he will not re-sign with them? I’d say he will not sign with at least 2/3rds of the league.

We don’t know his preference at this point but we have an idea. We know he wouldn’t stay in Columbus (we thought it was about the coach) but now he is forcing his way out of Winnipeg for no real obvious reason. The only thing that makes sense is that these are small market teams.

We know he wants to sign in Montreal but is that the only place? Maybe it comes down to the market and he will only sign in a big one. That leaves us with like 10 teams but most of them like the Rangers, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, LA either don’t have the assets to make that deal, don’t have the cap space or are rebuilding…

Detroit is one team I can think of that will probably bring some competition but I don’t think it will be too much of a bidding war.

Regardless though this is pretty similar to the Horvat/Meier deals and there was a lot of competition for them.

Yea it will be. Jets won’t be trading him to Montreal and anyone with a brain knows it. It’s going to be to a contender or a team that thinks they have a hope in signing him. My guess is a team trades for him at the draft, thinking 2023 first, another pick plus a B level prospect. That team then tries signing him and if fails will flip at the 2024 deadline to a contender


Why would they do that when they can just get a better offer with an extension from Montreal this offseason? That’s doesn’t make any sense. They’ll have no issue trading him to where he wants to go, that’s how you get the most for him.

They traded Trouba to NY knowing that’s where he wanted to go.
Mar. 27, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Dom1422
Why would they do that when they can just get a better offer with an extension from Montreal this offseason? That’s doesn’t make any sense. They’ll have no issue trading him to where he wants to go, that’s how you get the most for him.

They traded Trouba to NY knowing that’s where he wanted to go.


Montreal definitely won't be making an offer this year because that would require compensation including 1st round picks. Yes more than one 1st because if it's just one the AAV won't be high enough to stop Winnipeg from matching. In 2024 when he's UFA with no compensation required then sure Montreal will be all over him.
Mar. 27, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.
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Montreal definitely won't be making an offer this year because that would require compensation including their 1st round pick this season. In 2024 when he's UFA with no compensation required then sure they'll be all over him.


Why are you so sure that he makes it to ufa?
Mar. 27, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.
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Why are you so sure that he makes it to ufa?


It’s pretty apparent. Doesn’t take a brainiac to know it. He’s going to get traded to a contender for something like 1st 2nd + maybe a prospect or young player. Montreal won’t be offering anything of value so all these mock trades are idiotic
Mar. 27, 2023 at 3:08 p.m.
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It’s pretty apparent. Doesn’t take a brainiac to know it. He’s going to get traded to a contender for something like 1st 2nd + maybe a prospect or young player. Montreal won’t be offering anything of value so all these mock trades are idiotic


All we have so far is his agent saying he would like to play in Montreal. That doesn’t equate to Montreal or nothing.
 
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