Red Wings decline to spite LanceBMX.

Damn

I like it!

Had a feeling you might.

Wings doesn't want an aging Centermn who's making $8,000,000 for 2 more seasons.

And there's no way you're getting Kyle Connor for that.

Don't encourage him with his Johansen love

I am ok with Johansen for nothing more than a bloated salary. That said, for a player who really never achieved ppg despite playing top 6 minutes, he is way overpaid. 3 of the last 4 seasons, he has been around .5 ppg, last season being one of his best. I'd be willing to gamble for 2 years that he can be a middle 6 center, putting up 50 to 60 points each year. That allows Rasmussen to play LW with Larkin and Raymond, and Copp to center Kasper and (lol Bedard, ok fine Berggren) on line 2. Johansen can center line 3 with Kubalik/Perron/Veleno/Mazur/ Fabbri.

I am not sure what cost is fair. If Detroit eats the full 8 million, Nashville needs to send a 3rd, in exchange for something like McIsaac and a 5th rd pick.

Yeah, Ryjo's definitely overpaid by a few million, but if you have the cap space, he's a good middle six player. He gets tons of hate on CF because he never lived up to that contract, but he's not a liability on the ice or anything.

Funny you brought up McIsaac, because @Lancebmx's frequent proposal is Veleno, McIssac, and a 4th. The Preds don't have room for another LD in NSH or MIL, so I swapped him out for JVP here. I now nothing about him, but the Preds could use another goalie or two in their system, and NSH does like their Swiss players.



This would be in a WPG is blowing it up scenario. Two 1sts, a 2nd, and a young player to roll the dice on seemed fair to me. Three 1sts feels like too much, unless the Jets take back significant salary too.

A late 1st this year and another late 1st 3 drafts from now, would put you nowhere close to the top offer if the Jets decided to sell Connor.

I would argue against the Detroit not wanting a player like him. They probably don't go for him but what he brings would really help our team and the acquisition cost isn't much.

The only reason McIsaac is in trades isn't because he is bad. He should already be in the NHL right now. Injuries screwed his 1st 2 years. He was a top 4 billing, and he is pretty overall solid. There is a TON of potential, I just don't know that he gets there because he missed 2 full development years. In 1-2 years, he is easily an NHL player, I just don't know where.

The Detroit of two years ago would have had patience, and played him out next season. Problem is, not only do you have a glut of veterans at LD, you also have the deepest of deep pools of LD the league has ever seen. I'm not at all saying it will be true, but the number of top 4 LD in the system is ridiculous (Edvinsson, Wallinder, Johansson...plus Walman and Maata). Sebrango and Viro would both be viewed as top prospects at D in any other system but Detroit. McIsaac is in a numbers game. He is the most NHL ready LD in the system, by far, Edvinsson included (who debuted nicely). At minimum you have a bottom pair all situations guy. At best you have a top 4 D who is a PK specialist. He will never reach his 1D offensive defenseman potential, but his defense has improved drastically despite missing so much crucial time.

Why give up on McIsaac? He isn't waiver eligible anymore. Detroit has too many options at LD to keep him on board. He may very well turn out to be better than any prospect in tbe system of Detroit( I doubt it) but he is certainly going to be a player that is a "I wish we traded him for more" guy. When Detroit fans throw McIsaac into a trade, it isn't a throwaway; it is a "ran out of options" and trade for less than real value. Basically, what Yzerman did to acquire Walman.

Does any team need another LD? There seems to be a league-wide glut of them.

Even with Ekholm gone, NSH still has Josi, McDonagh, & Lauzon on the left side. Stastney has shown he's NHL ready too, but I think he's still got another year of waivers eligibility. He probably gets undeservedly stuck in the A, due to that. NSH isn't an ideal home for McIssac either.