Veleno brings a lot of physicality himself. I wouldn’t trade him. He could be a important role player going forward.

I don't see why Winnipeg would make that trade. Zadina is a throw in piece at this point, you could try a player swap with him but he doesn't add value to acquire a steady top 4 guy like Pionk. The 2nd is a starting point but you can bet you'd have to add to draw any response from Winnie

Then might as well target Addison in free agency since anything more than this is just an overpayment.

Addison is RFA you would have to trade for him and he would cost the same if not more than Pionk

doesn't move the needle for detroit, also the pionk trade is hilarious u think zadina has value?

I know, probably the only thing I like about his game but I feel like Foligno brings alot more to this team.

This trade has seemed to be a pretty reasonable trade discussed by both fan bases. I actually meant to add a fourth but forgot.

What do you mean it doesn't move the needle for Detroit? Toys is intended to be a playoff team or anything. Also Zadina does have value just not much.

I like the players but I'm not paying 7 million dollars for a 4th line

You aren't, I am and it's only 6.8M 😉

Yeah and he's around 4 years younger lol

ill pass on the wild deal... other than look solid

I take it you would like to keep? I actually was thinking of now signing Acciari and keeping him to be honest, probably the better course of action even though Acciari is better now.

Foligno would be a good player to bring into Detroit, the right vet presence and voice, plus still contributes.

Thanks for validating my point brother

That a younger defenseman of similar skill is more expensive?