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Debrincat for KK

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 2, 2023
Published: May 2, 2023
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Free Agent Signings
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2$3,000,000
2$1,400,000
2$950,000
2$800,000
2$825,000
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1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
2.
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  1. Boucher, Tyler
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
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2023
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2025
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22$83,500,000$83,461,547$0$1,850,000$38,453
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
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C
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
LW
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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RW
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
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$916,667$916,667
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May 2, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.
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I mean depending on what Debrincat would sigh for, i would consider it. But it would have to be a great contract.
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May 2, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
I mean depending on what Debrincat would sigh for, i would consider it. But it would have to be a great contract.


Something on the lines of 8 years x 8-8.5m is what it will/should be.
May 2, 2023 at 8:01 p.m.
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He'd have to change his name to "DeFINcat."
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May 2, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Something on the lines of 8 years x 8-8.5m is what it will/should be.


Thats probably more than we want to bite off with a guy who hasn’t played a day in our system or anything like it.
May 2, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Thats probably more than we want to bite off with a guy who hasn’t played a day in our system or anything like it.


tbf sens would accept with you guys taking off the 2nd rnd pick
May 2, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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I'd put Pinto 3C and KK 2LW
May 2, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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I'd only do it if I thought Kotkaniemi could be a contributor as a top six LW, and I'm just not totally sold on that. If he's your 3C his contract doesn't make sense.
May 2, 2023 at 8:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Sens_Fan33
tbf sens would accept with you guys taking off the 2nd rnd pick


We’re in win now mode. So it would have to be a sweetheart deal to move a roster forward off the board. I don’t think 8 x 8.5 million is it.
May 2, 2023 at 8:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'd only do it if I thought Kotkaniemi could be a contributor as a top six LW, and I'm just not totally sold on that. If he's your 3C his contract doesn't make sense.


How so? 3C contracts will be over 5 as soon as the cap goes up. He already outperformed his contract this year
May 2, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
How so? 3C contracts will be over 5 as soon as the cap goes up. He already outperformed his contract this year


yeah go look around the league at above average 3C (and I think he is that) and 4.8 isnt bad at all. you win down the middle. I agree he is a subpar 2C, but he is an above avg 3C and is still improving.

side note, I dont personally think the canes should get any smaller, and this deal makes them much smaller.
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May 2, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
How so? 3C contracts will be over 5 as soon as the cap goes up. He already outperformed his contract this year


I just think for Ottawa's financial outlook it's not viable. Especially when they have a 3C already who definitely won't be getting that much this summer.
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May 2, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Moosetache
yeah go look around the league at above average 3C (and I think he is that) and 4.8 isnt bad at all. you win down the middle. I agree he is a subpar 2C, but he is an above avg 3C and is still improving.

side note, I dont personally think the canes should get any smaller, and this deal makes them much smaller.

Yea, I’d much prefer a deal around TT extended than moving out a long term roster piece
May 2, 2023 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Sens_Fan33
I'd put Pinto 3C and KK 2LW

Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'd only do it if I thought Kotkaniemi could be a contributor as a top six LW, and I'm just not totally sold on that. If he's your 3C his contract doesn't make sense.


Pinto or KK can play 2LW or 3C. Options are good to have. All good teams play with seriously good top 9s. Having a loaded 3rd line is not a bad thing.

And in this scenario if a guy like Norris gets hurt, they are still fine down the middle. Big issue they had this year.
May 2, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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Not a fan of either team but not sure Carolina does this, KK while not close to Debrincat is on a very affordable deal and is still developing plus a 1st and Debrincat will want top dollar
May 2, 2023 at 8:50 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Pinto or KK can play 2LW or 3C. Options are good to have. All good teams play with seriously good top 9s. Having a loaded 3rd line is not a bad thing.

And in this scenario if a guy like Norris gets hurt, they are still fine down the middle. Big issue they had this year.


I don't love it, but I could see how it could work. If Kotkaniemi can give them top 6 offensive production, a Kotkaniemi-Norris-Giroux 2nd line would be a pretty sick two way line. Definitely would be an option, just not my top option. The problem is, Pinto was lowkey over his head in the top 6 a lot of this season, so if Kotkaniemi is a 3rd liner they've got a problem
May 2, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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Good thought on the trade. Both teams have to figure if the players they get in return are going to worth their contracts.
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May 2, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
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Canes aren’t going to consider that. KK has been great so far, and the contract will only look better as time goes on.
May 2, 2023 at 11:38 p.m.
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Thats too much for Veggie. Take out Boucher.
 
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