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Created by: qc14

Team: 2023-24 Washington Capitals

Initial Creation Date: May 8, 2023

Published: May 9, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Mock draft
CHI - Bedard
ANA - Fantilli
CBJ - Carlsson
SJS - Smith

Forget who exactly said it -- I think it was Pronman -- but that if a team didn't take any Russians last year chances are they won't this year. MTL is one of those teams. There's also been a lot of chatter that Michkov is going to fall out of the top 5. WSH jumps MTL, AZ, and PHI to get Michkov, MTL still guarantees themselves one of Dvorsky, Benson, Reinbacher. They also pick up 40oa and Suzdalev, who was picked 70oa last year but has since put up an incredible rookie season in the WHL where he was 8th in the league in scoring. The last time someone moved into the top 5 was in 2008 which is forever ago, but in that deal TOR sent 7, 37, and 68 to NYI for 5 so I tried to model it off of that.

For the rest of the team, they have to move on from Kuzy and Mantha even if it means eating money to do so. Bertuzzi gets too much money and term but is really the only UFA forward that's worthwhile. Sharangovich can play a supporting role and is younger. De Haan can be replaced by any vet min D, preferably a righty. Frank, Malenstyn, and Snively battle for the 13f spot, I think Snively has the edge.

For the lines, Strome has to be with Ovechkin. I would prefer to keep Backstrom and Oshie in a more sheltered 3rd line role, but these 2nd and 3rd lines would have pretty even ice time at 5v5 if I was coaching. Gus and Carlson worked so well together last year that you try to see if Sandin can recreate the magic, but I wouldn't hesitate to try any of the 3ld up next to him. Jensen and Fehervary seem to have nice chemistry as well, TVR is so solid and can also play with anyone.

The biggest questions are if Bertuzzi can actually be a good top line forward and if McMichael is ready to handle middle 6 center minutes. If he isn't, you could also run
Ovi-Strome-Wilson
Milano-Backstrom-Bertuzzi
Sharangovich-Protas-Oshie
Snively-Dowd-NAK
which is far from ideal but maybe a little less scary for a coach.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Fehérváry, Martin		2	$2,500,000
Sharangovich, Yegor		3	$3,250,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler		6	$6,450,000
De Haan, Calvin		1	$875,000

Trades

WSH

2023 1st round pick (MTL)

MTL

Suzdalev, Alexander
2023 1st round pick (WSH)
2023 2nd round pick (WSH)

WSH

2023 1st round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

Colorado adds a desperately needed 2nd scoring threat at 2c and at a relatively cheap cap hit

COL

Kuznetsov, Evgeny ($2,800,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Caps recoup some of the draft capital they used to move up and clear out cap space as well as a center spot for mcmichael

WSH

Sharangovich, Yegor [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

NJD clears some cap and roster space

NJD

2025 2nd round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

Lowest of the three 25 2nds. Caps buy a little low on a young forward

Buyouts

Anthony Mantha: $1,366,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Evgeny Kuznetsov: $2,800,000 (71.79%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$83,250,834	$20,000	$162,500	$249,166

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,500,000$9,500,000 LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Strome, Dylan $5,000,000$5,000,000 C UFA - 5	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Sharangovich, Yegor $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	McMichael, Connor $863,333$863,333 LW, C RFA - 1	Bertuzzi, Tyler $6,450,000$6,450,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Milano, Sonny $1,900,000$1,900,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Bäckström, Nicklas $9,200,000$9,200,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Protas, Aliaksei $789,167$789,167 ($82,500$82K) RW, LW, C UFA - 1	Dowd, Nic $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 2	Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,225,000$1,225,000 RW UFA - 1
Snively, Joe $800,000$800,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sandin, Rasmus $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 1	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Kuemper, Darcy $5,250,000$5,250,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
Fehérváry, Martin $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD RFA - 3	Jensen, Nick $4,050,000$4,050,000 RD UFA - 3	Lindgren, Charlie $1,100,000$1,100,000 G UFA - 2
Alexeyev, Alexander $825,000$825,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	van Riemsdyk, Trevor $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 3
Häman Aktell, Hardy $870,000$870,000 ($80,000$80K) LD RFA - 1	De Haan, Calvin $875,000$875,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Strome, D.		Bertuzzi, T.		Bäckström, N.
	Ovechkin, A.		Carlson, J.

Power Play 2
Wilson, T.		Oshie, T.		Milano, S.
	Ovechkin, A.		Sandin, R.

Penalty Kill 1
	Dowd, N.	Aubé-Kubel, N.
	Fehérváry, M.	van Riemsdyk, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Protas, A.	Wilson, T.
	Alexeyev, A.	Jensen, N.

May 9, 2023 at 12:12 a.m.

ClockReads2113

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I'm down to move up to grab Michkov but that's too much. Remove Suzdalev.

May 9, 2023 at 12:16 a.m.

qc14

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

I'm down to move up to grab Michkov but that's too much. Remove Suzdalev.

I'm really happy with Suzdalev and he seems like he has a professional future but you have to give to get, I feel like its a fair price given both the precedents set for moving up and the specifics of this draft

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May 9, 2023 at 12:49 a.m.

jpsnow13

You know nothing JS

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Would MTL trade down 3 spots if Will Smith is taken and Michkov is still available? IMO yes.
Is a big fast LW prospect what MTL need? 100% yes

Good job!

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May 9, 2023 at 12:53 a.m.

ohmyjlord

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Ahaha ! I just posted a similar ACGM scenario.

I don't know a lot about Suzdalev, but seems intriguing enough for me to consider it. If the Habs are really not ready to take Michkov, this is the type of move I'd like them to make, rather than just reach for Dvorsky or Reinbacher at #5.

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May 9, 2023 at 9:00 a.m.

ClockReads2113

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Quoting: qc14

Then pass. Sounds like Michkov is dropping. If MTL isn't taken him then ARI definitely isn't. Doubt PHI does as well.

May 9, 2023 at 9:47 a.m.

TJTwolf

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The Avs aren't going to move that '23 1st in a hurry but if they do then I could see them doing this but I think they'd want the full 50% with their cap situation and it being this year's pick.

May 9, 2023 at 9:48 a.m.

ohmyjlord

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

Then pass. Sounds like Michkov is dropping. If MTL isn't taken him then ARI definitely isn't. Doubt PHI does as well.

Why are you so sure ARZ wouldn't take him ?

May 9, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.

NMAvsFan

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Quoting: TJTwolf

The Avs aren't going to move that '23 1st in a hurry but if they do then I could see them doing this but I think they'd want the full 50% with their cap situation and it being this year's pick.

They can't afford to move that pick for anything less than a young-ish established player they can count on having around for years to come. If they really want Kuzy, it should be the 2024 1st they offer.

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May 9, 2023 at 10:05 a.m.

qc14

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Quoting: NMAvsFan

I would probably accept the 24 1st instead. That being said, you have to give to get and young-ish established players are the exact types that teams don't give up, especially at center.

May 9, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.

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TJTwolf

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Quoting: NMAvsFan

I absolutely agree the '24 1st would be more palatable (and more likely) even if they have to give up another pick like the 3rd in '25 for more retention (something that's already been on a few posts on here and seems to be agreed as reasonable by both sides). I'm merely stating that IF they move it then it's going to be some kind of deal like this for established talent, even if Kuzy is a little older than we'd like.

May 9, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.

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TJTwolf

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Quoting: qc14

I would probably accept the 24 1st instead. That being said, you have to give to get and young-ish established players are the exact types that teams don't give up, especially at center.

NMAvsFan is probably correct in the ideal circumstances. Personally I'd rather do the '24 1st and the '25 3rd for the extra retention. You do have to give to get however. That said, with the value being placed on first rounders in this draft it should also be reasonable to expect that it could be used for a younger C as per NMAvsFan's opinion, even if as part of a package.

May 9, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.

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ClockReads2113

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Quoting: ohmyjlord

Why are you so sure ARZ wouldn't take him ?

I think it more comes down to Michkov telling them he won't play for them. Why would a Russian come over from making money there to play on a dying franchise that can never win?

But also, no Russian has ever really worked for ARI, don't know if they take a chance on a guy that might not ever come over. Benson or Reinbacher makes more sense for them.

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May 9, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.

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dgibb10

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Devils decline that. Hockey move or early 2nd/late 1st

May 15, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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I like it!

Quoting: ClockReads2113

Then pass. Sounds like Michkov is dropping. If MTL isn't taken him then ARI definitely isn't. Doubt PHI does as well.

That's the same as Mtl not trading for PLD because you get him for free in 2024. You always pay to guarantee the player. A lot can change. Michkov is clearly a top3 talent only logistics is holding him back from a sure thing and Russians...elite Russians that is... never extend contracts after they are drafted. Michkov wants to be an NHL'r from what I heard and when you are that good, you always want to beat the best!

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