A Realistic Matthews Trade based on the Tkachuk Trade

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Created by: tkecanuck341

Team: 2023-24 Los Angeles Kings

Initial Creation Date: May 9, 2023

Published: May 9, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Tkachuk (with an 8-year extension) was traded for two quality players in the final year of their contracts, as well as a lottery protected 1st round pick. There's no way LA is sending out Clarke, Byfield, Vilardi, Kempe, or any other quality young player under team control for 2+ years for a guy that they can sign as a UFA next summer.

I know that some of you are going to take issue with the amount of the Gavrikov extension. It's not the point of this ACGM, so this is just a placeholder. If he won't sign that deal, then the Kings will look elsewhere for a LHD.

I'm assuming based on Blake's comments from last week's exit interviews that he intends to let Petersen try to win back the net next season. If he can't then the Kings will address that during the season. Also not the point of this ACGM.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Vilardi, Gabriel	3	$2,250,000
Kupari, Rasmus	2	$1,250,000
Björnfot, Tobias	1	$874,125
Fagemo, Samuel	1	$787,500

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Gavrikov, Vladislav		6	$4,250,000

Trades

LAK

Matthews, Auston

Additional Details:

Matthews signs 8-year extension

TOR

Kopitar, Anze
Madden, Tyler [RFA Rights]
Roy, Matt
2024 1st round pick (LAK)

Additional Details:

1st is lottery protected

LAK

Traded for draft picks.

TOR

Termination Fees

Mike Richards: $700,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$82,442,709	$0	$5,345,000	$57,291

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Fiala, Kevin $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Kempe, Adrian $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Moore, Trevor $4,200,000$4,200,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Danault, Phillip $5,500,000$5,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Arvidsson, Viktor $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Iafallo, Alex $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Byfield, Quinton $894,167$894,167 ($2,650,000$3M) LW, C RFA - 1	Vilardi, Gabriel $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, C RFA - 2
Kaliyev, Arthur $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) RW, LW RFA - 1	Lizotte, Blake $1,675,000$1,675,000 C RFA - 1	Kupari, Rasmus $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Anderson, Michael $4,125,000$4,125,000 LD UFA - 8	Doughty, Drew $11,000,000$11,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Copley, Pheonix $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Gavrikov, Vladislav $4,250,000$4,250,000 LD UFA - 2	Clarke, Brandt $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3	Petersen, Cal $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Björnfot, Tobias $874,125$874,125 LD RFA - 2	Durzi, Sean $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Turcotte, Alex $894,167$894,167 ($1,550,000$2M) C RFA - 1
Fagemo, Samuel $787,500$787,500 LW, RW RFA - 1
Spence, Jordan $820,000$820,000 ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 1

May 9, 2023 at 12:34 a.m.

KingExLeafs

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That's not realistic at all. Leafs have no interest in getting another aging veteran center.

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May 9, 2023 at 12:34 a.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

That's not realistic at all. Leafs have no interest in getting another aging veteran center.

And the Kings have no interest in giving up quality young players for a guy they can have for free next summer.

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May 9, 2023 at 12:37 a.m.

LosPatos

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Jonathan Huberdeau is 29 years old
Anze Kopitar is 35.

Mackenzie Weegar was/is much better than Matt Roy (on the time at Florida)

A more realistic value would be

Fiala
Gavrikov (if he weren’t a FA)
2024 1st

In all, the Leafs do not do this

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May 9, 2023 at 12:41 a.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: LosPatos

Fiala has 6 years left on his contract. If Fiala was in the final year of his deal, then sure.

I think Roy and Weegar are actually pretty close. Roy is defensively superior to Weegar, and he actually scored more goals this season (the first season in a long time that the Kings are actually offensively competent) than Weegar's career high.

May 9, 2023 at 1:09 a.m.

Mediumyeet

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This isn't close to comparable to the tkachuk trade. Kopitar is 36 going into the season. Huberdeau was 29 and coming off a 100+ pt season. Only thing comparable about this is they're pending UFA's.

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May 9, 2023 at 1:42 a.m.

mk458

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I'm so confused by this... You say you're using the Tkachuk trade as comparable, and then you use 35 year old Anze Kopitar as the center piece of the trade. Huberdeau was 29 years old coming off a season where he was a heart trophy candidate. The kings don't have a forward with the pedigree that Huberdeau had coming off of last season. Huberdeau was considered a top 10, maybe even top 5 winger in the NHL at that time.

Also Auston Matthews is a heart trophy winner and a 60 goal scorer. I think he would cost more than Tkachuk did if he's signing an extension. Obviously Tkachuk has now cemented himself as being similar caliber to Matthews, but at the time of the trade I don't think he was considered to be as valuable as Matthews.

May 9, 2023 at 1:47 a.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: mk458

All fair points, but the main point is that it's still much more reasonable than the trades asking for Byfield, Clarke, and two 1sts.

May 9, 2023 at 1:51 a.m.

mk458

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

All fair points, but the main point is that it's still much more reasonable than the trades asking for Byfield, Clarke, and two 1sts.

It all depends on what Toronto wants really. If they want key pieces to continue to contend, then LA probably isn't where he'll end up getting traded.

May 9, 2023 at 1:54 a.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: mk458

It all depends on what Toronto wants really. If they want key pieces to continue to contend, then LA probably isn't where he'll end up getting traded.

Which is perfectly fine, because then they'll just pursue him in the free agent sweepstakes next summer.

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May 9, 2023 at 2:02 a.m.

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mk458

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Which is perfectly fine, because then they'll just pursue him in the free agent sweepstakes next summer.

Exactly. I'm still hoping he goes home to Arizona though. If the NHL is going to keep a team there no matter what, I'd like them to at least have a franchise player to help grow the sport there

May 9, 2023 at 7:15 a.m.

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CMac66

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This in no was compares to Tkachuk/huberdeau trade lol. I think what you're missing is if (which is a big if) he gets traded before UFA, it's probably to a place he'll sign an extension to maximize leafs return so there will be no free agent bidding war. A team either ponies up and extends him, or you lose out

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