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What should a Marner to LAK trade look like

Created by: mauston_atthews
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2023
Published: May 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR Enabled: No
Season Days: 185
Days Remaining: 185
Season Remaining: 100%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $74,514,783
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
14$83,500,000$67,168,116$0$0$16,331,884
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
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$925,000$925,000
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
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$800,000$800,000
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
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$796,667$796,667
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May 19, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Asking people on this site I begging for low ball offers. Here come the Arvidson and a late 1st offers. "Because he's a cap dump!"
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May 19, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Why would the Kings trade premium assets for a winger just a year after they acquired Kevin Fiala? Makes less than no sense imo.
May 19, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Not_Isles5513
Why would the Kings trade premium assets for a winger just a year after they acquired Kevin Fiala? Makes less than no sense imo.


Marner is an elite playmaking selke nominated winger. I guess you wouldn’t want that playing with 40 goal kempe and sniper fiala. The kings have a lot of assets and cap space to afford a move like this
May 19, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: mauston_atthews
Marner is an elite playmaking selke nominated winger. I guess you wouldn’t want that playing with 40 goal kempe and sniper fiala. The kings have a lot of assets and cap space to afford a move like this


They have a lot of assets, but they also have a lot of quality wingers. Their biggest need is a successor for Kopitar, a new goalie or a new left d man. Marner is none of those things.
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May 19, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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If they were interested a big IF they would want Matt Roy bc of his great defensive play and we can’t rely on Schenn playing those type of minutes again in the playoffs and being successful. Morgan is the type of player that needs a Schenn type dman. One of Morgan’s other best year in recent memory was with Ron Hainsey. So that brings out my point with wanting that type of defenseman with Morgan.

They would also want prob one of Grans or Bjornfont and one of Iafallo or Moore and maybe some picks
May 19, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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Marner is an elite playmaking selke nominated winger. I guess you wouldn’t want that playing with 40 goal kempe and sniper fiala. The kings have a lot of assets and cap space to afford a move like this

See, this is the fatal and inescapable flaw in your premise that you and every single other Toronto fan trying to shoehorn Mitch Marner into the Los Angeles roster seems unwilling to accept: far from having "lots of cap space to afford a move like this," the Kings have LESS THAN ZERO cap space to afford a move like this. In a nutshell, that's because of Marner's nearly $11 million cap hit, which has an even greater effect than that because in order for us to sell off enough assets to equal that cap hit, we have to send back three or four players, which means that Marner's nearly $11 million cap hit becomes that PLUS the cap hits of the two or three roster players we have to replace that went back to Toronto.

Let's look at the indisputable reality. Right now, the Kings have 11 forwards, 5 defensemen and 2 goaltenders on the roster, all of whom can be expected to play next season. Let's add to that RFA Tobias Bjornfot, because he fills one of our open LhD slots and his Qualifying Offer is less than $900,000. The aggregate of the cap hits of those 19 players plus $700,000 in dead cap is just under $77 million! Adding in Marner's cap hit and the cap hits of the three players to fill out a 23-man roster and you'll exceed $91.5 million at the very least. Now sell off the three or four players necessary to get down under the anticipated $83.5 million cap and give you value for Marner (not including RFA Gabe Vilardi, whom we have to include in a Marner trade because he doesn't figure in the numbers I've quoted) and you've created another three or four holes in the roster which have to be filled. And this doesn't even begin to address the problem of upgrading our #2LhD hole, which will cost in excess of $4 million, in all likelihood.

The entire idea of Marner to Los Angeles is an idiotic game of suicidal self-whack-a-mole.
 
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