Canucks decline. Not using pick 11 to dump anyone.

Keep in mind your GM is Patrik Allvin so you never know… no sense of direction in Vancouver and they are currently above the cap.

Korchinski is coming up, no need to bring back Caleb, otherwise this is pretty decent

I agree. However I think they bring him back at least for now just to make Seth happy. It gives korchinski more time to develop in Seattle.

This makes no sense. There has been a pretty clear direction . They are not rebuilding, but they aren’t going to trade their only first round pick unless it’s for a U25 C or RHD. Patrik Allvin has made lots of good moves. They are also not over the cap. Yet another uneducated take. Perhaps do some research. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about

Haha even the way you phrase the state of the team makes no sense. Not rebuilding but not willing to move a pick? What are they doing then? What I am proposing doesn’t take away a pick, they are sliding down 8 spots to get rid of some brutal contracts.

Since coming in, Allvin has swapped 3rds and some how come out with a worse dman, traded away a 2nd round pick to get rid of Dickinson, gotten a 1st round pick for their captain and then turned around and traded that pick for second/ third pair dman. If that doesn’t scream no direction and absolutely running that franchise into the ground you might need to give your head a shake.

He's done in Seattle, 0% chance he goes back. If anything, he plays in the AHL, but keeping in Seattle will stunt his growth as he's dominating at that level.

Since he is still CHL eligible, he won’t be able to play in the AHL. It’s either Chicago or Seattle. The reason I don’t think it will stunt his growth is because he is only 18 still and if he comes back he likely takes the C and takes on a bigger leadership role with the team. I think throwing him in full time in Chicago next year might not be the best for his development. From what I’ve heard from Seattles camp they are expecting him back but we will see! Definitely looking forward to him eventually making it up to Chicago though!

You ever heard of a re-tool? They aren’t holding a fire sale, but they aren’t throwing away futures either. Canucks already traded away a first round pick to acquire a 25 year old top 4 RHD. Not trading the other one unless we get a similar value player. Canucks have a shallow prospect pool. The GM has made it very clear that they are looking forward to drafting at 11. Even suggests they might trade up.

Allvin traded Hamonic for a 3rd. Hamonic was supposed to be a 3 mil cap dump but he flipped him for value. Even though Dermott didn’t pan out, the Canucks won because they cleared cap space

Canucks traded a 2nd to get rid of Dickinson so they could acquire Ethan Bear for a 5th round pick. Since then, Bear has been our 2nd best defence man so I’d say that trade worked well for us. It isn’t his fault that the previous GM left him with little to work with

As for the Horvat trade, it was an excellent move. Horvat was unwilling to tell-sign, so Allvin sold high on him and got a good return. He got a good centre prospect, a young middle 6 winger (Beauvillier outproduced Horvat after the grade), and a first round pick which they traded for a very good top 4 RHD. They turned an expiring UFA into their top prospect, middle 6 winger, and their top pairing RHD. Pretty good in a re-tool perspective. How is this no direction? It is abundantly clear what the direction is right now. The canucks have added useful players to the lineup for cheap. Kuzmenko and Mikheyev are crucial parts to the team and they signed them for free. Turned an expiring UFA into potential core pieces. What do you not get?

I agree that they did well in the Horvat trade. I don’t agree that they should have used the pick to trade for Hronek. At the end of the day, the Canucks have been stuck in no man’s land the last two years not making the playoffs but not drafting high either. They don’t have very much draft capital and have a couple strong draft classes coming up. They don’t have any cap space to improve the team either. Re-tools don’t work and it’s terrible timing, but if that’s the direction they want to take it makes more sense to move down 8 spots and potentially get another pick in that trade to move a couple bad contracts. That would free up the money so that they could go and pick up that RHD on free agency or via trade.

I can't see the Hawks adding this much salary. You've got them up against the cap ceiling. Davidson isn't going to forfeit his maneuverability in season with all these moves. If they open the season with a cap hit figure of more than $70m to $72m I'd be shocked.

The direction in Vancouver has been quite clear. Both Allvin and Rutherford have stated that they believe they have a core that is ready to contend. They want to complement that core by adding younger pieces 26 and under. With the state of their prospect pool, they have absolutely zero reason to trade 11th overall.

Like everyone else you also didn't look into the situation. I don't know where this narative has come from but Vancouver is not over the cap. They do not need to shed salary to be cap compliant, they can ice a 23 man roster next year under the cap without paying to dump anyone.

kings are not trading Turcotte for a 2nd.