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Created by: Sawyersauce26
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: May 23, 2023
Published: May 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
1$800,000
4$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,500,000
3$3,000,000
3$2,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
2.
ARI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,300,000$637,500$0$200,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$12,600,000$12,600,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$987,500$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6

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May 23, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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Seems like a smarter idea to re-sign Toews and trade Girard. Value would be similar since Girard is younger and has 4 years left on his deal. Keep Toews whos in his prime and fits well with Makar and go at a few more cups
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May 23, 2023 at 6:33 p.m.
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That Toews return seems a bit underwhelming compared to what we're sending for Schmaltz
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May 23, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
Seems like a smarter idea to re-sign Toews and trade Girard. Value would be similar since Girard is younger and has 4 years left on his deal. Keep Toews whos in his prime and fits well with Makar and go at a few more cups


Avs fans really act as if Girard is Bobby Orr with the returns they are demanding for him. It never gets old. I’d lower your expectations on a return for him or you’ll surely be disappointed.
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May 23, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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I'd do that for the 2024 1st probably. Not this years though.
May 23, 2023 at 6:56 p.m.
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I would gladly send the LA 1st and CBJ 2nd (23 and 34) plus something like Roslovic w/ retention, Peeke or another mid pick (depending what COL would prefer) to get Toews if he's available.
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May 23, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
Avs fans really act as if Girard is Bobby Orr with the returns they are demanding for him. It never gets old. I’d lower your expectations on a return for him or you’ll surely be disappointed.


I don't think he's Bobby Orr.. makar is Bobby Orr
But the value for Girard and toews seems off.. toews is a top 10-15 dman in the league the last 2 seasons and the value here is a 1st and 3rd.. nick shmaltz isn't a top 10-15 centre in the league and would be colorado 2nd line C but his value is 2 1sts and a 3rd.... and 3 years of term doesn't make up the difference
May 23, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
Avs fans really act as if Girard is Bobby Orr with the returns they are demanding for him. It never gets old. I’d lower your expectations on a return for him or you’ll surely be disappointed.


A 25 year old defenceman with 4 years left on his contract at a very reasonable price that can put up 35+ points can at least get a 1st and a 3rd which is what you have Toews getting.

All I’m saying is keep the better player in Toews, trade Girard for the same value that Toews was traded for in this post, and use that $5m in cap to help re-sign Toews and then you can still acquire Schmaltz for the same price here (I think Colorado overpaid here but any team getting Schmaltz is going to overpay). Just seems smarter to keep the better players while the team is still trying to win now
May 23, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
A 25 year old defenceman with 4 years left on his contract at a very reasonable price that can put up 35+ points can at least get a 1st and a 3rd which is what you have Toews getting.

All I’m saying is keep the better player in Toews, trade Girard for the same value that Toews was traded for in this post, and use that $5m in cap to help re-sign Toews and then you can still acquire Schmaltz for the same price here (I think Colorado overpaid here but any team getting Schmaltz is going to overpay). Just seems smarter to keep the better players while the team is still trying to win now


I didn’t make this ACGM, just pointing out a fact about Avs fans constant delusional demands for Girard.
May 23, 2023 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
Seems like a smarter idea to re-sign Toews and trade Girard. Value would be similar since Girard is younger and has 4 years left on his deal. Keep Toews whos in his prime and fits well with Makar and go at a few more cups


Toews is definitely better then Girard but I don’t think the Avs can afford his next contract and they have Bo plus I don’t think Girard gets much more then a 2nd so I keep the younger cheaper Girard and use Toews to get the 2c they badly need.
May 25, 2023 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
Seems like a smarter idea to re-sign Toews and trade Girard. Value would be similar since Girard is younger and has 4 years left on his deal. Keep Toews whos in his prime and fits well with Makar and go at a few more cups


Reports are Byram wants Toews job; the Avs need to pick one. Before paying Byram the max, I think the Avs give him a one year deal to prove he can play a full season. I see a very low chance he gives them a three year, compromise deal as many default to on CF.
 
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