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10 different Alex DeBrincat trades that would allow Ottawa to save face

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2023
Published: May 26, 2023
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Description
None of these 10 trades have to be made.


None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat.


Please read this description before commenting.
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
#17 overall in 2023 + Top 10 Protected first in 2024 from Boston
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
2.
OTT
DET
  1. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
3.
OTT
  1. Levi, Devon
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
#13 overall in 2023 + Buffalo's choice of either Devon Levi, JJ Peterka or Jack Quinn.
BUF
4.
OTT
BUF
  1. Levi, Devon
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
5.
OTT
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
#8 overall in 2023 + Hendrix Lapierre
WSH
6.
OTT
WSH
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
7.
OTT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
#14 overall in 2023 + two seconds
PIT
8.
OTT
PIT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (PIT)
9.
OTT
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
JG Pageau + lottery protected first for 2024
NYI
10.
OTT
NYI
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
11.
OTT
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Alexander Holtz + conditional first for 2024


The condition would be if New Jersey reaches the 2024 ECF, Ottawa would receive a first for 2025 instead.
NJD
12.
OTT
NJD
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
13.
OTT
  1. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
Lottery protected first for 2024 + Carolina's two seconds for 2024
CAR
14.
OTT
CAR
  1. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
15.
OTT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (NSH)
  2. 2025 1st round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
#15 overall in 2023 + Top 10 Protected first in 2025 from Tampa
NSH
16.
OTT
NSH
  1. 2023 1st round pick (NSH)
  2. 2025 1st round pick (TBL)
17.
OTT
  1. Wright, Shane
Additional Details:
Alex DeBrincat for Shane Wright straight up
SEA
18.
19.
OTT
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew
  2. Vladar, Daniel
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
#16 overall in 2023 + Andrew Mangiapane + Calgary's choice of either Dillon Dube or Daniel Vladar
CGY
20.
OTT
CGY
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew
  2. Vladar, Daniel
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
11$83,500,000$66,424,047$0$1,850,000$17,075,953
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2

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May 26, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: buffbry
Looks like you shouldn't make threads like this again since those 3 sentences mean nothing


Looks like I will make threads like this again since your trolling means even less.
May 26, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
Looks like somebody didn't read the description.


Looks like somebody shouldn't have hit the post button if he didn't want people commenting on the values of the trades proposed.
May 26, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
Looks like I will make threads like this again since your trolling means even less.


Didn't troll you at all, your proposals stink
May 26, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
When did I say the description should affect the feedback I get in this ACGM ?

This part: "Please read this description before commenting."

heavily implies that:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."
... are to be used as pointers through which the users' comments pertaining to this AGM should be considered.
What your description fails to do is to inform anyone commenting on your AGM how the shape of discussion should differ from any other AGM posted on the forum.

Stop gaslighting us and try to clarify what you actually meant by:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."
May 26, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
Looks like a few people here can't read a very brief description of only 3 sentences.


Looks like someone made a poor ACGM and doesn't like the fact that he was rebuffed (description was read, but that trade would not allow Ottawa to save face because the Pens wouldn't agree to it).
May 26, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Looks like somebody shouldn't have hit the post button if he didn't want people commenting on the values of the trades proposed.


I invite such comments.

The issue is some people like yourself are unable to read a 3 sentence description before commenting.

It is what it is.
May 26, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
I invite such comments.

The issue is some people like yourself are unable to read a 3 sentence description before commenting.

It is what it is.


Why do you keep acting like those sentences mean something? You proposed trade values from multiple teams for debrincat and fans made comments on those values. That's the point of posting on this site.
May 26, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
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Didn't troll you at all, your proposals stink


That's exactly what a troll would say.
May 26, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Tintin
This part: "Please read this description before commenting."

heavily implies that:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."
... are to be used as pointers through which the users' comments pertaining to this AGM should be considered.
What your description fails to do is to inform anyone commenting on your AGM how the shape of discussion should differ from any other AGM posted on the forum.

Stop gaslighting us and try to clarify what you actually meant by:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."


But the description is not telling anybody to comment any differently.

Or that this AGM should be treated any differently from others.
May 26, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
But the description is not telling anybody to comment any differently.

Or that this AGM should be treated any differently from others.

No of course, you're right.

Everyone commenting on here clearly and very needlessly misunderstood this fine example of AGM.

Wishing you a wonderful Friday.
May 26, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: HulkVader
Looks like someone made a poor ACGM and doesn't like the fact that he was rebuffed (description was read, but that trade would not allow Ottawa to save face because the Pens wouldn't agree to it).


Looks like I made a good ACGM with at least two possible trade scenarios for DeBrincat and that my ACGM was not entirely rebuffed.

You only read the description when I had to point it out to you in the thread.
May 26, 2023 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Why do you keep acting like those sentences mean something? You proposed trade values from multiple teams for debrincat and fans made comments on those values. That's the point of posting on this site.


Because they do mean something.

And like I said, I invite such comments.
May 26, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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No of course, you're right.

Everyone commenting on here clearly and very needlessly misunderstood this fine example of AGM.

Wishing you a wonderful Friday.


Same to you awesome face
May 26, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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I can definitely see 24 1st and Lapierre plus a second or something for Cat. I don't see the caps giving up 8OA unless for Keller
May 26, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
That's exactly what a troll would say.


Change your name to sensonice
May 26, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
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Yeah Wings ain't do that.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Change your name to sensonice


I actually kind of like that name.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
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Yeah Wings ain't do that.


Please read the description again and thanks for stopping by.
May 26, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
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Please read the description again and thanks for stopping by.


Ok? Why make a proposal at all if you don't want to know whether it's a realistic offer or not? Keep it in your drafts if you don't want criticism.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
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Please read the description again and thanks for stopping by.


Also Buffalo wouldn't even give Levi for DeBrincat straight up considering their position.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.
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Looking at it, the only team (assuming a competent GM) that would probably accept any of these proposals would be NYI.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Ok? Why make a proposal at all if you don't want to know whether it's a realistic offer or not? Keep it in your drafts if you don't want criticism.


Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Also Buffalo wouldn't even give Levi for DeBrincat straight up considering their position.


1. I did want to know and at least a couple of these 10 trades are realistic offers, given some of the comments.



2. I didn't feel like keeping it in the drafts.



3. In that case, Buffalo would overrate Levi.
May 26, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.
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1. I did want to know and at least a couple of these 10 trades are realistic offers, given some of the comments.



2. I didn't feel like keeping it in the drafts.



3. In that case, Buffalo would overrate Levi.


1. I've seen two comments saying they take this (NYI+WSH), with one of them contested (WSH).

2. Then quit complaining about criticism.

3. Buffalo needs a goalie much more than a LW.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
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Looking at it, the only team (assuming a competent GM) that would probably accept any of these proposals would be NYI.


Then we'll take the trade with NYI.

All we really need is 1 trade with 1 other team for DeBrincat.

None of the others matter.
May 26, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.
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Then we'll take the trade with NYI.

All we really need is 1 trade with 1 other team for DeBrincat.

None of the others matter.


Ok? So the criticism of others allows you to narrow down what teams takes the offer lol. If you only want to trade with NYI, then create proposal for them and them only. But you didn't, you created one with other teams, and those fans of the other teams gave you their input.
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