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Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2023
Published: May 27, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,250,000
6$4,875,000
3$1,875,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Murray, Matt
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
TOR
  1. Bednar, Jan [Reserve List]
  2. Kubalik, Dominik ($1,250,000 retained)
  3. McIsaac, Jared [RFA Rights]
2.
DAL
  1. Lindström, Gustav [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (DET)
3.
DET
  1. Bratt, Jesper [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Extension: 8x$8.25m
NJD
  1. Zadina, Filip
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (DET)
4.
DET
  1. Newhook, Alex [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Extension: 6x$4.875m
COL
  1. Lombardi, Amadeus
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$74,147,222$0$5,257,500$9,352,778
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$4,875,000$4,875,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
RFA - 1
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$905,833$905,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3

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May 27, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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Make it a 2023 2nd and you have a deal. St. Louis 2nd to be specific
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May 27, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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Chiarot is way way way way way way way way way way better then maata or wallman or liljregren or hakanpaa
May 27, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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That doesn't get you Bratt
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May 27, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.
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Toronto will keep Lily and their first. Seriously dude, try a little harder, none of those players help the Leafs or are that good.
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May 27, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Hudson11
Chiarot is way way way way way way way way way way better then maata or wallman or liljregren or hakanpaa

Chiarot doesnt “suck” like most people say but, I also don’t agree with your overly enthusiastic opinion overall.
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May 27, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
Toronto will keep Lily and their first. Seriously dude, try a little harder, none of those players help the Leafs or are that good.

I feel like Toronto is in a bit of desperate situation; I suppose I could include one of our 2nd rounders and I think that’s even things out.
May 27, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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That doesn't get you Bratt

What does
May 27, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.
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It's not the trade - I know that the Devils will almost certainly lose a Bratt trade if they trade him - its that I can't imagine we'd lose him if that's the contract he's agreeing to.
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May 27, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
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I was going to add on to what I said earlier.

While I think NYI 1st, STL 2nd and Zadina gets it done.

It could also be Bratt for DET 1st, Zadina or Bratt for NYI 1st and one year rental of Perron/Kubalik (this one being the one the Devils are probably angling for the most)
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May 27, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Chiarot doesnt “suck” like most people say but, I also don’t agree with your overly enthusiastic opinion overall.


Chariot is a bottom pairing defenceman that lacks skill. He was great in the playoffs one year when he was allowed to crosscheck anyone near the net but has been a disappointment ever since. He’s overpaid for the role he should be in.
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May 27, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
It's not the trade - I know that the Devils will almost certainly lose a Bratt trade if they trade him - its that I can't imagine we'd lose him if that's the contract he's agreeing to.

What do you think his contract would be
May 27, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BrodeurBro30
I was going to add on to what I said earlier.

While I think NYI 1st, STL 2nd and Zadina gets it done.

It could also be Bratt for DET 1st, Zadina or Bratt for NYI 1st and one year rental of Perron/Kubalik (this one being the one the Devils are probably angling for the most)

I’d probably do NYI 1st, STL 2nd, Zadina & Kubalik for Bratt.
May 27, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: IDKtbh
What does


More than you'd be willing to move. It would have to start with pick #9, and Zadina is not at all interesting.
May 27, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: BrodeurBro30
I was going to add on to what I said earlier.

While I think NYI 1st, STL 2nd and Zadina gets it done.

It could also be Bratt for DET 1st, Zadina or Bratt for NYI 1st and one year rental of Perron/Kubalik (this one being the one the Devils are probably angling for the most)


Woof, I don't even love Bratt and you are selling him for very little. Who wants a rental?
May 27, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
Chariot is a bottom pairing defenceman that lacks skill. He was great in the playoffs one year when he was allowed to crosscheck anyone near the net but has been a disappointment ever since. He’s overpaid for the role he should be in.

Yeah, he’s like exactly a 5th defenseman. Can fill in higher in the lineup in short term situations but, the moment you’re relying on him for anything beyond that is where it becomes an issue. His lack of offensive anything is his biggest downfall.
May 27, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
More than you'd be willing to move. It would have to start with pick #9, and Zadina is not at all interesting.

I was asking the commenter about what contract he expects Bratt to get.

But in regards to the return, you cannot ignore the depth of the 2023 draft. Just because DeBrincat went for the 7OA last year does not mean that is now the going rate. I seriously doubt anybody moves a top 10 pick this year or even a top 15 pick for a current player, unless it’s for a superstar.
May 27, 2023 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Woof, I don't even love Bratt and you are selling him for very little. Who wants a rental?


Bratt has one year of RFA left. He’s younger than Fiala and I expect him to get slightly more than Fiala because we aren’t as cap crunched and a B grade prospect or high marquee rental to replace Bratt on the right wing. The winger market is not as expensive as you may think. We got Timo Meier without surrendering any blue chippers.

I still agree with my trade premises.
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May 27, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Worst goaltending duo in ever
May 27, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
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How does trading Newhook help COL? It doesn’t. Easy no from COL.
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May 27, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Yeah, he’s like exactly a 5th defenseman. Can fill in higher in the lineup in short term situations but, the moment you’re relying on him for anything beyond that is where it becomes an issue. His lack of offensive anything is his biggest downfall.


If he’s making 3 million per you are talking about how great he is and not his flaws.
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May 27, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
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What does


NJD would want a young, age 20-25, player who is in NHL in top-6 forward or top-4 dman role with plenty of term/control. No picks or prospects are needed.

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What do you think his contract would be


Probably similar to Fiala's deal last year with Kings ($7.875 million x 7 years)...unless he wants to go short-term. If he took 3-year deal, he would be 27 at UFA.
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May 28, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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Chiarot doesnt “suck” like most people say but, I also don’t agree with your overly enthusiastic opinion overall.


He's better then the others
May 28, 2023 at 7:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
Chariot is a bottom pairing defenceman that lacks skill. He was great in the playoffs one year when he was allowed to crosscheck anyone near the net but has been a disappointment ever since. He’s overpaid for the role he should be in.


Nah you just don't know what a good defensive dman
May 28, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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He's better then the others

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
May 28, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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Nah you just don't know what a good defensive dman


I stand corrected. Ben Chariot is awesome. Well worth the 4.75 million and probably why Detroit was so awesome this year.
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