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Created by: csick
Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: May 30, 2023
Published: May 30, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,500,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Hart, Carter
PHI
  1. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
  2. Lyubushkin, Ilya
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
2.
BUF
    FC
    ANA
    1. Olofsson, Victor
    3.
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    1. DeMelo, Dylan
    WPG
    1. Comrie, Eric
    2. Kisakov, Alexander
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (PHI)
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    Skinner, Jeff
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    Thompson, Tage
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    Tuch, Alex
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    UFA - 3
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    Mittelstadt, Casey
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
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    Cozens, Dylan
    $7,100,000$7,100,000
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    Waivers ExemptQuinn, Jack
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    Peterka, John-Jason
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    Krebs, Peyton
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    Tatar, Tomas
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    Greenway, Jordan
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    Jost, Tyson
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    UFA - 1
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    Okposo, Kyle
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    UFA - 1
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    Samuelsson, Mattias
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    UFA - 7
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    Dahlin, Rasmus
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    Hart, Carter
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    Power, Owen
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    DeMelo, Dylan
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    Waivers ExemptJohnson, Ryan
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    RFA - 2
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    Jokiharju, Henri
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Stillman, Riley
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
    #1
    sabres1108
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    Hart is a downgrade from UPL
    May 30, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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    phillyjabroni
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    Hart is a downgrade from UPL


    Based on what metrics?
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
    #3
    sabres1108
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    Quoting: phillyjabroni
    Based on what metrics?


    knowledge
    May 30, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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    Samsoc222
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    Quoting: phillyjabroni
    Based on what metrics?


    Based on feelings big feelings, wrong feelings, dumb feelings lol
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
    #5
    Samsoc222
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    knowledge


    Of which u have a pitiful amount
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
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    Samsoc222
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    Flyers probably accept because of the Buffalo pick being so high
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
    #7
    Skyraider112
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    Philly would want a kings ransom for Hart, not sure they'd get that though. They certainly don't need Lyubushkin given the RHD they have on the team but I could see Olofsson with 50% retained in that spot instead. That would boost the trade value a bit but still probably not enough for Philly fans
    May 30, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.
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    csick
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    Hart is a downgrade from UPL


    Talk about a horrible take. If you watched a flyers game, you’d see Hart standing on his head the whole game because the team sucks and can’t get the puck out of their own zone
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.
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    phillyjabroni
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    knowledge


    2022-23 5v5, minimum 1500 5v5 TOI (40 ranked)

    Carter Hart
    SV% = 0.922 (14th best)
    GSAA = 9.57 (14th best)
    HDSV% = 0.840 (16th best)
    HDGSAA = 2.65 (17th best)

    Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
    SV% = 0.898 (34th best)
    GSAA = -13.12 (33rd best)
    HDSV% = 0.807 (33rd best)
    HDGSAA = -6.29 (32rd best)
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
    #10
    littlejerryseinfeld
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    Hart is a downgrade from UPL


    I actually laughed out loud at this
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
    #11
    Farabee
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    Hart is a downgrade from UPL


    UPL put up wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy worse numbers than Hart did this season playing behind Dahlin and Power. I would love to see UPL's numbers with Hart's work load this past season.
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    May 31, 2023 at 12:21 a.m.
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    Moss_Bucket
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    Quoting: sabres1108
    knowledge


    If we use the easily accessible info on this exact website, we can see that Hart had a much better season than UPL. UPL is not a bad goalie, but given by easily obtainable stats and footage, it is easier to say Hart is better. If you want to make a counter claim, I am opened to hearing it.
    Quoting: phillyjabroni
    2022-23 5v5, minimum 1500 5v5 TOI (40 ranked)

    Carter Hart
    SV% = 0.922 (14th best)
    GSAA = 9.57 (14th best)
    HDSV% = 0.840 (16th best)
    HDGSAA = 2.65 (17th best)

    Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
    SV% = 0.898 (34th best)
    GSAA = -13.12 (33rd best)
    HDSV% = 0.807 (33rd best)
    HDGSAA = -6.29 (32rd best)


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